Dmitry Bivol vs David Benavidez in the summer

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    less than 3 rds will separate the winner from the loser. with many not agreeing on who won. i see it more and more as a toss up. gameplans will be the difference. bivol is the more disciplined and skilled fighter. but this isnt just about skills, its about the package. its about the timing of the fight. its about the kryptonite that we havent seen yet.
    someone previously posted that benavidez is being underrated. i agree.
     
  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    That is the recipe for beating great Eastern Euro fighters wait for them to be in their late 30's or even 40 and still stack the deck against them.
     
  3. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Turki paid Bivol a lot of money. For him to be disloyal now tells all that needs to be told.

    Let Bivol go to PBC. Let him fight on a delayed air in Australia lmfao

    I am ALL-IN w Turki. He wants to reduce weight classes - cool, consolidate belts to 1 GREAT, eliminate extraneous promoters/Ali act - GREAT. Dont forget, this was what PBC was supposed to do before they got greedy.

    Long live Turki
     
  4. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol definitively beats Benavidez who had trouble landing on Morrell. Bivol is FAR more refined than Morrell. And Morrell almost scored a freaking KD but has zero ability to make adjustments partly due to being green AF.

    Bivol may legitimately hurt Benavidez and win 8-4 or so.
     
  5. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i dont agree.
     
  6. PistonHondai

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    I’d rather see Benavidez vs Beterbiev. Even though they both will beat Benavidez, at least with Beterbiev you’ll get to see Benavidez get KTFO
     
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  7. bjl12

    bjl12 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Its this simple:

    Beterbiev is better than Benavidez and Bivol arguably won twice, back-to-back. There is no better preparation for a Benavidez than to fight a better Benavidez in Beterbiev. No, Beterbiev and Benavidez arent the exact same style but there's a ton of overlap.

    Benavidez meanwhile has been fighting Andrade, a literal old and inactive JMW, and Morrell, a barely pro SMW. Both Andrade and Morrell had their moments and amateur standout Morrell stopped Benavidez dead in his tracks (isolated moment).

    Bivol is savvy at this point having washed Canelo and beaten Beterbiev once (or twice) in very close fights. I hope Bivol fights Benavidez next just to silence the band wagon. And I guarantee you afterward Bivol will say Beterbiev was a better opponent.
     
  8. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    i understand your reasoning, but you can see by my previous posts that i reason differently. my reasoning isnt always correct, but its correct often enough that i trust it. we will see if i should start questioning that trust if the fight materializes.
     
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  9. bjl12

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    Ditto
     
  10. tarrant45

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    He landed at 40% vs Morrell, the same as he did vs slick defense fighters like Plant, Andrade. Its why he is number 2 on compbox accuracy. What you just said is the opposite of reality. You literally just say things.
     
  11. tarrant45

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    This is the most casual triangle theory type nonsense imaginable. It's been proven wrong 1000 times previously. Styles make fights and Beterbiev and Benavidez actually are quite different, if you understand the nuance in boxing, and don't just see 2 fighters coming forward with pressure.
     
  12. tragedy

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    Bivol's resume shreds Benavidez. You put Bivol in there will all the guys Benavidez fought he breezes through them all but can Benavidez beat Beterbiev, Zurdo, can he even beat Canelo? Can he even beat guys like Joe Smith Jr? He hasn't even proven himself against ANY legit ranked light heavyweight contenders.
     
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  13. tarrant45

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    Bivol did not breeze past Craig richards. Morrell, Gvozdyk, would be tough fights for him at 175. Bivol is not superman, his best win is against a 40 year old. Gvozdyk was a legit ranked LHW, and he breezed past him in his first fight in the division. He would be the second best win on Bivols resume not including a blown up MW Canelo.
     
  14. tragedy

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    Bivol really struggled there with clear UD win over Craig Richards. Whats Benavidez's best win at light heavyweight the one with the guy moving up from 168 and arguably lost his last fight to a guy who is best known for being brutally knocked out by Beterbiev or the one with the 37 year old renting out his name for a pay day and is best known for getting brutally retired by Beterbiev? Craig Richards would arguably be a step UP for Benavidez who STILL has not fought a legit ranked light heavyweight yet.
     
  15. tarrant45

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    The score cards were 118–110, 115–113 and 115–114. Richards finished the fight stronger. Did you actually say Craig Richards would be a step up over Morrell and Gvozdyk??

    It's interesting how you frame Gvozdyk, former lineal champ , put Stevens in a coma, and his only loss was a late stoppage over prime Beterbiev when he was leading him on the cards. Yet you dismiss him as his only claim to fame is getting knocked out by beterbiev. Pathetic.

    Both his opponents were ranked top 6 at LHW. Richards is not even ranked top 10, and both of them would demolish Richards.