Martin Bakole vs George Foreman

Thank you!

 

Pfft, thread aged well.

 

Well he weighs as much as a Kodiak,,,

 

I'd say my contribution did...

It happens all the time when guys with thin resumes get crazy amounts of hype.

 

You're claiming Bakole was hacking up a bucket of blood before the Parker fight...?

 

Well apparently a 1 punch KO loss in the 2nd round to an older fighter who isn't even known for his punching power hasn't changed some people's minds.

Bakole's boogeyman reputation is shattered into more pieces than a bag of m&M's and he clearly wouldn't have the chin to handle a flush bomb from Foreman.

 

Huh?

Parker's only 33... Bakole is officially 31, but could easily be older than Parker in reality.

But yes, Bakole's bogeyman status has taken a hammering - he didn't help himself by taking that fight in that condition, it's possible he could've done better but realistically he'd always have lost that.

He's not terrible, he was just way overhyped... And still is, by some, it appears.


If this is a Kodiak bear, his bear necessities seem to have been taken to kiwi land...

 

The way Foreman ended Cooney is the same way he’d end Bakole.

Poor Bakole wouldn’t even see it coming.

 

Why do people not learn, size isn’t everything.

especially considering the heights these days are exaggerated and the high weights are generally through not being 100% committed to training, which in fact makes them worse.

foreman is one of the best ever

 

There's biological age, and then there's athletic age. Yes, Parker isn't that old in terms of modern society, but he's been competing since 2009 as an amateur and since 2012 as a pro. He has faced a murderer's row of opponents: Zhang, Wilder, Joyce, Chisora, Joshua, Whyte, Ruiz, etc and has been in some serious wars getting clipped or dropped multiple times. He has a lot of mileage, but he still looks good.

I wasn't saying he was washed up or ancient, but he is an older fighter given all he's been through. And he isn't known for being a one punch KO artist, so yes that makes Bakole's early KO loss look bad.

 

Even in fights where he's winning, Bakole will sometimes just stand there disdainfully absorbing punches from his opponents. If you look at the Anderson fight, he didn't bother blocking any of the body shots and often had his hands down. No head movement, plodding footwork, leaky guard, all a recipe for disaster against a huge puncher who can hit with either hand.

 

I have made this point several times, but apparently doing so illustrated my lack of knowledge in the sport. The fact this observation then turned itself into a tangible representation of the dangers of disdaining the more traditional forms of fistic defence for defending oneself with the top of ones head, and the obvious negative effects this might have might go some way to refuting that argument, or not. I bow to those older, wiser and more invested in the product....

 

You have to remember, these people have a modern agenda. More recent=better. Taller and heavier=better. The same flaws they point out with older fighters on film aren't flaws if spotted in recent fighters. If modern guys do those mistakes, they're not really mistakes because they're "more athletic and evolved".You just don't get what you're seeing.

Carnera lacked head movement because he was a stiff robot devoid of skill. Bakole lacks head movement because he is cleverly setting his opponent up for traps while blocking with his face.