Sonny Liston or Wladimir Klitschko who rates higher as a all time heavyweight?

Watching the fight.

Not seeing any teeth knocked out. Not seeing any teeth in the mouthpiece that's being waved around after the ref takes out of his mouth.

My eyes, basically.

 

Granite chin ? Oh my word are you using the '' chin '' argument to defend Wlad.Mate,don't ever
think of becoming a lawyer.You would starve !
Here's a wee tip for you.Cleveland Williams is recognised as one of the hardest punchers in history.
Liston absorbed his punches so very easily.The same punches that would probably have decked Wlad.
Like I said,don't ever think of becoming a lawyer............

 

Please view again.The referee has removed Bethea's mouthpiece and is obviously indictating
to Bethea's trainers the damage inflicted by Liston.
By the way,did you really expect to actually see Bethea's detached teeth ? Please say no !

 

You said he knocked out seven teeth with one punch. Prove it. I can watch the video. I see no evidence of one punch knocking out seven teeth.

On the contrary, Bethea and his corner were angry the fight was stopped.

People told lots of stories back then because they weren't used to television catching their lies.

Dundee told everyone for years that he tore Ali's glove against Cooper and there was a long time delay to have the glove replaced.

Except, the glove was never replaced and there was no time delay. Dundee lied. And people repeated the lie.

Liston didn't knock out seven of Bethea's teeth with one punch. Bethea is standing there with the mouthpiece out, and his corner is there, and they're all arguing with the ref for stopping it.

And which one punch knocked out all these teeth?

Maybe some of you guys shouldn't rely on AI write-ups and hype so much.

Just watch the fights.

 

But,but what about one of the 2 greatest jabs in heavyweight history,one of the greatest left hooks in history,
the great chin,the great head movement ? Thanks for raising the subject mate.

 

Lol Wow. Hahaha!

Reading comprehension isn’t your strong suit there killer. I was using “The chin argument” towards liston because you are using lamon BREWSTER as an argument for why liston beats Wladimir. Not going to sit here and explain why that’s absolutely ******ed Lol The whole “Styles make fights” thing… have you heard of why…

You know what… Do you there buddy sonny would beat Wladimir Klitschko because lamon brewster was able to take arguably one of the hardest bombardments at HW in four rounds that the sport has seen. So… liston would be able to do the same. That’s why you threw brewsters name in there lol

“B.. bu.. but BREWSTER AND SANDERS DOE!!”

lol

 

Well if you want to get technical the guy who was intimated by the lumbering Tyson Fury would definitely
be intimated by the lightning fast Ali.
'' Barely out of his teens '' ? Oh come on, Ali was young but 22 years old is not '' barely out of his teens '' !

 

liston got One Hit & Quit from one ali right hand. Lol

“But liston took williams best shots doe!!! Ole Cleveland hit as hard as Wladimir Klitschko I bet!!”

 

Noooo......Liston was obviously naturally bigger,much bigger, than Bryd.Are you seriously trying
to make out,while looking at their respective physiques,that Bryd matched Liston for physical
strength and punching power ?

 

"Lumbering" is an odd way to describe Tyson Fury of the Wlad fight. It's the kind of label one might apply to guys like Vitali or Foreman.

Fury was certainly big and strong compared to the slightly-smaller-than-Larry-Donald-sized Ali, but "lumbering" doesn't fit Fury, IMO.

 

Ah yes,the Marty Marshall fight.Which was only Liston's 8th professional fight.
As for the respective weights,in Liston's days heavies were boiled to the bone to be as
light as possible.Looking at the respective physiques of Liston and Brewster it's obvious
that Liston could comfortably add those few extra pounds to match Brewster's weight.

 

Stories’ was just shorthand for single fight moments, like Bethea’s teeth or Wepner’s face. They’re real, not made-up, but they’re still just specific examples, not proof Liston hit harder than Wlad overall.

 

But he didn't.

Lightheavyweight Tunney could comfortably bulk up to 190. That doesn't make lightheavyweight Tunney 190 pounds.

Liston weighed what he weighed.

 

Liston would be a cruiserweight in the modern era.

And Johnny Nelson would put him to sleep.

 

No please,let me make this easy for you.You made a disparaging remark about Liston's chin i.e not
able to take Wlad's punches.On the other hand Liston was able to absorb Cleveland Williams's punches.
Cleveland Williams was at the very least on Wlad's level as a puncher.
As for referencing Wlad's chin you made the rather bold statement that Liston's punches wouldn't have
the same impact on Wlad as the punches of Sanders.Well.....yes they would.
Wlad is indeed an all-time great heavyweight but he is chinny.Deal with it.
Mind how you go.