Myth: Roberto Duran has a better resume than Floyd Mayweather and Manny Pacquiao.

You rank guys upon many different factors.

Under traditional ranking criteria, you’re looking at a lot, with the main ones being: Ability, resume, wins and accomplishments.


The strength of a guy’s overall resume is a different debate to who they beat.

Floyd has a better group of wins than Duran.

Duran fought the better fighters.


Floyd has a better group of wins than Oscar.

But Oscar has the better resume.

He fought the better group of fighters.


You don’t get points for losing, but we should be intelligent enough to be able to apply context.


Surely you can work out, that Floyd fought lesser fighters than Duran.

Surely you can work out that it’s not in any way realistic to believe that Floyd would have retired undefeated, had he have fought Duran’s best opposition.

 

No mas.

 

I see that your brain is working at full capacity.

What a treat for us all.


You and the Master.

What a partnership that is.


Harry and Lloyd.

 

Doesn't matter we rank fighters based on who they beat not who they may or may not have fought that's called speculation. And since you admit that Floyd had better group of wins then Duran you basically conceded the argument lol

 

Conceded the argument?

Are you working at full capacity like No Brain is?


No, we don’t just rank fighters on who they beat.

I’ve already told you that we rank on a number of different factors.


I’ve already told you that resume and wins are two different debates.


Floyd has got more top wins.

Duran has got the best singular win.


Floyd has the deeper resume.

Duran has the superior resume.


Floyd was undefeated but fought lesser fighters.

Duran lost many fights, but fought better fighters, as well as more than twice the amount of fights that Floyd did, where he fought into his 50’s.


Floyd was a safety first businessman in the second half of his career.

A tiny, 36 year old Duran, who’d had 90 fights, ended up winning a championship at MW.


There’s an awful lot to look at.

Well beyond your capabilities.

 

Most of Duran's resume consists of dross that none of us can even name.

Your need to rank Duran higher based on getting knocked unconscious in a blowout against Hearns and quitting against Leonard says it all.

 

I haven’t got a NEED to rank him higher for those reasons, you absolute genius.

Is it really asking too much, for you to have an honest debate?

You are the fool who thinks that Floyd’s win over Canelo, was better than Duran’s win over Barkley, based on Canelo being better than Barkley.

You haven’t got the required intellect to have a proper debate.

You’ve no idea on how to evaluate a win.

A 5’7 guy with 90 fights on his resume, with a tiny 66” reach, winning a title at MW, at 36??

That was ridiculous.

Expand your thinking.

 

Did Duran belong to a different height class than Mayweather? Maybe you should rank all of Duran's wins above Mayweather's because he managed to accomplish them while being a less disciplined, more vulnerable, and overall inferior fighter to Floyd.

 

What on earth is this horse manure?

Have we already reached the stage where you’ve just got literally nothing of any worth to say?

A different height class??

Maybe you should rank fighters objectively, after taking various factors into account.

It really shouldn’t be that difficult.

A tiny LW who fought back in the days of same day weigh-ins, who’d had 90 odd fights, ended up winning a title at MW, against a very tough challenger, who dwarfed him in height and reach.

Your response:

“Floyd’s win over Canelo was better, because Canelo was better than Barkley”

You and your friend are completely incapable of having an objective debate, because you’re both stat men with limited knowledge.

You simply debate by comparing numbers.

Duran wasn’t inferior to Floyd.

He lost most of his biggest fights, simply because he fought great fighters who were prime, and who were much bigger than him.

Something that Floyd never saw in his entire career.

Floyd never fought a prime ATG.

You and the Master (such an ironic username) get aroused by Floyd’s zero, yet haven’t got the brain power to realise two things:

1. He couldn’t have beaten the Fab Four either.

2. The likelihood is, he’d never have fought any of them.

 

Fighters aren't ranked by who they could or could not have beaten in a completely different era they're ranked by who they did beat in their era.

 

100%

I’m just saying that I know that Floyd wouldn’t have fought those guys that Duran did.


Yes, you rank Floyd on EXACTLY what he did.

And he did amazing.

However, he didn’t fight any prime ATG’s.


You also rank Duran on exactly what he did.

And you should be objective, and take everything into account.


Regarding a fighter’s resume, it’s a stand alone factor.

The resume is the resume.

The fighter’s ranking is then based upon the results of the fights from their resume.


Duran has the better resume.

Floyd had the better group of wins.


How and where you rate them is up to you.

But Duran clearly had the better resume, irrespective of his losses.

He simply fought the better fighters.


ATG’s who were in their absolute primes.

And Floyd simply doesn’t have them.

 

I guess so too,I think the nearest hing to a washed up dude he fought may be Palomino just fresh from getting beaten by Benitez although it was a competitive fight, remember that he won a controversial decision vs everaldo before.

 

Cuevas and 89 Leonard.

 

Duran does not whoop Mayweather let's be serious, you can beat Mayweather use, you sure as hell won't "whoop" or even as much make him bruise, Mayweather will not let you whoop him for sure nah.

 

Mayweather is too prideful and too pretty for you to whoop him