Look, I want to see it as much as anyone, but Usyk is not "ducking" Parker.

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  1. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I have been lobbying for a very long time that Parker should be Usyk's next opponent. As an ex-titlist who has fought everyone he can get his hands on, and beaten many of them, Parker is a guy who is very close to carving out an important legacy himself. Usyk-Parker is THE fight.

    But the idea that Usyk is "ducking" Parker, which is all over this site and all over the internet, is absurd. Dubois got on his nerves by ruining his moment after Fury II, and Usyk stepped right up and told Turkyi to make that fight. Dubois is holding a gifted belt, running his mouth, and Usyk wants to right that.

    What is more, it is Dubois who beat AJ, and Hrgovic, who I don't like, but who was a #1 contender. I don't agree, and a lot of you don't either, but Usyk perceives Dubois as his biggest challenge and next logical fight.

    I hope the man comes to his senses and gives Parker the shot he deserves, but the idea of ducking is absurd. It is just frustration talking.
     
  2. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's doing what he's told
    Most fighters don't duck, they also either do what they are told or chase the dollar

    Usyk is a great fighter yes, but he is not the messiah you guys claim. If he could fight at home with his own refs etc, he would stack the deck like any other fighter in history.

    So no, he isn't afraid of parker, but he is essentially chasing the money, which is no different than many before him like Floyd and manny

    Oscar was the real guy who took on Anyone. His legacy suffered somewhat due to losses. But he took risks he didn't need to

    If usyk had the luxury to be born in the States or UK, then 90% of his fights would be at home like all others.

    He was a road warrior, because he had NO choice

    Usyk will sell out like any fighter and that's fine. He's human

    He beats parker, but I want to see it rather than another senseless rematch

    He isn't doing himself any favours here and is going to wind up falling behind the likes of Bivol and inoue when all is said and done. Bud beating canelo would also elevate him over usyk imo
     
  3. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Actually, I think he is very clearly chasing pride, here.
     
  4. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    No, money
    Beat the guy easily already, no point, but Dubois brings more dollar, so usyks masters will ensure he fights him

    Anyway I don't want to bash him, I've said my piece. He's just like every other fighter
     
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  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    But, you understand that the man ruined his big moment and called him out in front of the world. I don't think there is any basis for saying that this is about money, and as for the point that Usyk already beat him, Dubois is saying that he didn't. So I don't think it is right for you or anyone else to say that you can look into his heart and say that there is some ulterior motive.
     
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  6. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wwe nonsense set up just like all others
    Imagine Hatton ruining Pacquiao's moment after he beat Hatton so decisively. No need for a rematch. Usyk beat him already. You just like him so will make excuses

    Floyd had 2 rematches in his career, for a fight he should of lost and another where it was very close. He didn't rematch gatti or hatton

    I'm not arguing this. If you are fine with usyk having a few names on his resume, then fine, but he's only beat a few top guys in the sport, especially at hw

    The quality is not lacking, but his quantity is and the era is rubbish. For Heavens sake Chisora is still hanging around the top 10, that says everything

    I respect his skills, but the level of fanboyism is way higher than any fighter in history. He's Miles behind others regarding ranked wins and imo the level of competition
     
  7. LoveThis

    LoveThis Sweet Science Full Member

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    People don't 'duck' fighters they are at least a 70% favorite against. Maybe the money is bad, but that is promoter stuff. Legacy wise parker won't do much more for usyk than dubois. There just aren't any more opponents around that can do much for his legacy now. Beating dubois with more ease after his recent run and hype and if dubois (as the youngest of the top 10) achieves more later in his carreer would do the most for usyks legacy. Also would clean up that stupid fairytail of the low blow being a body shot.

    I would prefer kabayel to parker to dubois for I think that would be more interesting as a fight in itself. I see no reason usyk gave us that would indicate him cherry picking like canelo and tank or stacking the deck.

    If one likes to believe that he would do it even without him giving any reason for that then either you just don't like the guy for whatever reason or it's just general cynicism that no one could be better than the ones that do that kind of bs, essentially saying that is what you would do in that position. And since you can apply that logic to all of boxing history you take down the whole of boxing with this thinking...

    In my book at least, usyk holds a much elevated position to the a-side a-holes (that are often great boxers) until he proves me wrong. He did not do that so far
     
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  8. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Dubois/Parker/Kabayel there really is no wrong option here. Just schedule a fight.
     
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  9. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Still raging that we didnt see Bowe V Lewis Full Member

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    No offence to Parker but Turki probably sees him as a boring fighter that has already maxed out his potential. If that wasn't the case then the fight would basically already be set to be announced.

    Turki pulls the strings here and Usyk is happy to sit back and let Turki do the matchmaking for him, Uysk doesn't even think about Parker.
     
  10. mrbigshot

    mrbigshot Active Member Full Member

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    I do not believe its about money , i agree with catchwtboxing its about pride . Usyk has more money than he ever can spend at home .

    Lets remember war torn ukraine urgently needs its hero for morale boost .

    Usyk simply cannot afford to loose .

    He is very focused to retire as an undisputed and undefeated hw champion , at least on paper , and he is not willing to take any risk .

    He knows dubois , he probably can make silent agreements with him that parker would refuse , he is sure to win this while parker is a risk.
     
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  11. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wasn't you the guy claiming Dubois knocked Usyk out? So using your view of the events, what's wrong with trying to right the wrong and beat the guy who knocked you out?
     
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  12. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :roflmao:
     
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  13. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Usyk is ducking, end of story
     
  14. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Picking the easy path to protect the zero
     
  15. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    :roflmao: