Ron Lyle or Mike Tyson

Never understood why Holyfield keeps saying that when we can see on film that Tyson landed his signature right hook to the body, right uppercut combo. It landed flush with good power/timing and Holyfield was momentarily stunned, but took it well without having chicken legs.

There are other moments I can't remember precisely off the top of my head, but Tyson landed plenty both fights.

 

But why would he lie about that ?
And Holyfield rolled with/deflected a quite good number of those shots.

 

I didn't say he lied. Maybe he either forgot or it didn't leave a strong enough impression on him. I'm aware he did a good job rolling with some shots and had an excellent game plan.

All I'm saying is, we can actually see Tyson landing some flush punches to both head and body, so it's simply incorrect for Holyfield to say he never got hit with anything flush. Jerry Quarry once insisted he didn't get hit by Shavers, but realized he did when shown on camera.

 

I see your point.
Here, Holyfield said that "he [Tyson] never did catch me with the good ones", implying that he felt that he was never hit (or rarely) with a great shot.
At the 16min01 mark :

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I'm aware he said it. He says something similar in a different interview with Ellie Sechback.

Maybe he, like many people, was in awe of Tyson's power after watching all those brutal highlight reels and thinks Tyson never managed to land a 100% flush power punch. His expectations were probably higher than Snoop Dogg during 420 and when he was actually hit and didn't get dropped or KOd, maybe he felt Tyson simply never caught him with anything big.

At 1:20 Tyson lands the exact same signature combination he obliterated multiple opponents with: right hook to the body, right uppercut. Holyfield didn't even see it coming. It's simply incorrect to state Tyson didn't land a single flush power punch.

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What is true is that Holyfield didn't take nearly as much punishment as other opponents and did a good job smothering Tyson's shots and taking some of the steam off of them by making Tyson back up or rolling with the punches, as you said.

 

Fair enough.
Do you have a link of the interview ?

 

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He's named Foreman on at least 4 separate occasions without hesitation.

 

Thanks.

 

Punch is not just about brute force.
Accuracy, timing and speed are paramount.

Thus I go with Tyson.

 

Lyle had power but I don’t think he KO’d too many contenders.

 

Tyson was definitely better than 'post-Ali' Foreman, thats for sure.

 

I might actually go with Lyle for pure one punch power but Tyson hit harder with his combos, speed and unpredictability (it's the punches you don't see coming that hurt you).

 

Though obviously aided and abetted by seriously fast hands, accuracy and punching in combination, Mike still had formidable one punch power - go to 40 sec mark of the clip below (and also recall the real time combat single shots that dropped Holmes, Golota and Botha to name just 3).

Even allowing for improved mic pick ups, Mikey’s punches always sounded so much more lethal than most other fighters.

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Sounds right to me.

Lyle hit at least as hard.

 

So to clarify,

The thize of a man hath no thignificanth. The puncheth you don't thee coming will knock them out. Get them to focuth in body shoth, then youth the shoulder thnap.