Canelo RIPS Benavidez reveals why Crawford is getting the shot instead: He acomplished Nothing

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  1. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Testing positive due to meat contamination in Mexico does not make one a "proven PED cheat". No PED "cheating" on Canelo's behalf has even been "proven" as much as you like to say it. All the documented evidence related to that case points to him dining at a Mexican restaurant where he ordered a steak which as is common in Mexico has a high probability of being contaminated, which would have resulted in the positive test due to how often he was being tested at the time.

    Now as it relates to Crawford claiming that Pacquiao was a drugs cheat, while that is by no means a "proven" allegation, there is certainly good reason to believe that was the case. For one, Pacquiao during the early stages of his career, and particularly when he had his rapid physique transformation, drug testing in boxing was not what it was then as it is today. So when Pacquiao had his dramatic physique change in the mid to late 2000s where his body transformed from "ordinary" to "extraordinary" (as coined famously by one Floyd Mayweather) there was much speculation that he presumably must have been on PEDs when that transformation occurred. During said transformation it was unclear how often he was tested or if said tests back then would have caught any PED usage or announced to the public. Prior to Mayweather accusing Pacquiao of being on PEDs (rightly or wrongly) drug testing in boxing wasn't what it was then as it was now or since Mayweather made it a point to increase the level and regularity of drug testing in boxing.

    So to even try to equate Canelo's meat contamination situation to Pacquiao's dramatic physique transformation and conclude that Canelo is a "proven" PED cheat while Pacquiao isn't is quite a stretch, but it's a narrative that you've been running with for some time. Now, in fairness, Pacquiao technically never failed a drug test, to our knowledge at least, but again drug testing wasn't what it was when he had that physique transformation way back when that caused Mayweather to demand more stringent drug testing, which in turn led to situations like Mexican meat contamination leading to suspensions and causing all kinds of speculation.

    The fact that can't be denied is that Canelo has never had the kind of physique transformation that Pacquiao had that took Pacquiao from an ordinary fighter who was beat on several occasions to him all of a sudden looking unbeatable for several years, before returning to his more ordinary look once again once drug testing was ramped up that he was subjected to. It is such a dramatic transformation which makes one suspicious of a fighter using PEDs and trying to hide such usage. Eating Meat in Mexico is not "proof" of PED usage or cheating. So your attempt at accusing Canelo, one of the most rigorously tested athletes in history of being a PED cheat beacuse he ate some meat in Mexico is not something that should be taken seriously. On the other hand, Pacquiao's dramatic physique transformation in the mid to late 2000s was highly suspicious of actual PED usage which presumably is what caused Crawford to make such a claim about Pacquaio, whilst not holding Canelo to that standard.
     
  2. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Bud has a better chance vs Canelo than Benavidez due to height and reach.
     
  3. HistoryZero26

    HistoryZero26 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    People should because Beterbiev gave Bivol an instant rematch he didn't have to. I don't like rematches but that'd be unfair. Thats part of why I didn't want the instant rematch because if Bivol won a trilogy had to happen.
     
  4. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    :lol: You just wrote another one of your countless nauseating essays for CADL (Clenelo Alveroids Defence League) you know I'm never going to read, you absolute loon. You crazed mentalist. Go and take your meds you escaped mental patient Ginger stalker freak :facepalm:

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  5. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Again, he didn't have to disparage either of them

    Nah, I think he really buys into the narrative Manny's a PED cheat
     
  6. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    This photo bomb has been tossed around for years, which shows him drained and bone dry vs years later after he put on weight and wasn't starving himself. What happened to Pacquiao was completely different. As he was moving up weight he seemed to only put on pure muscle, showing no signs of excess weight or fat. It's a completely different situation my dear Ginger Dracula. And your comment only further serves to reinforce you trying to paint a fictional narrative surroudning all this. I have an obligation to set the record straight on such matters.
     
  7. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    And for good reason. But maybe there's more to this. Maybe Crawford thinks that Pacquiao ducked him and respects Canelo for being more willing to fight him. Who knows what has led Crawford to that assessment. But I do think Mayweather influenced a lot of people as it pertains to Pacquiao and his alleged PED use when he all but accused Pac of being on PEDs and demanded more stringent drug testing.
     
  8. drenlou

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    Canelo dissapoints me.
     
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  9. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Take your meds and stop wasting your time typing out posts I'm never going to read and would need to be as insane as you to even contemplate doing so, Shadow :lol:
     
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  10. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    No meds over here my man, I keep it all natural. You the other hand perhaps are suffering from a deficiency of Ginger Blood which would explain your blindspot for our favorite Ginger Boxer oh Count Dracula.
     
  11. turbotime

    turbotime Hall Of Famer Full Member

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    Well maybe he does believe he was using. Unfortunately a lot of people do. But this is the first time I've heard him refer to roids and Manny iirc which does surprise me since they were even in talks for a fight.

    As far as his all time rating he literally seemed to have gave 5 off the top of his head. I don't put much stock into it.
     
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  12. MagnificentMatt

    MagnificentMatt Beterbiev literally kills Plant and McCumby 2v1 Full Member

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    Yeah my first thought after reading this long winded post was “But…Canelo did have a dramatic physique change…”

    He looks like a blowfish above 160.
     
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  13. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Apples to Oranges. When Canelo moved up in weight, he put on weight, and as a result he became less reliant on his speed, and more focused on loading up with big shots. Further, the futher in weight he went up, like when he fought at Light Heavyweight, while carrying around the extra weight, his work rate diminished, he became slower, and he gassed harder than before.

    Compared to that Pacquiao, who when he started moving up weight classes, it did not cause him to slow down, or gas. In fact he became faster on his feet, the handspeed increased, he became harder to hit due to his overall speed increases. That's not normal or typical of someone when they move up multiple weight classes! The difference is that when Canelo put on weight, his "physique" changes were that he got bigger, as in you could see the additional fat. In Pacquiao's case, he moved up in weight but his body stayed lean. Pacquiao's weight incrases did not show signs of increased fat on his body, and his muscle definition was observed in places that they didn't exist before. So the comparison is absurd. You're acting like Canelo getting bigger by moving up multiple weight classes and not being as lean any more is the same as Pac moving up weight classes while staying as lean as he was only with more defined muscles. Now can you stop pretending that Canelo's body when he moved up in weight looked anything like Pacquaio when he moved up in weight?
     
  14. chairmanpow

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    Bivol beat the confidence out of him
     
  15. shadow111

    shadow111 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Because making easy work of Gennady Golovkin, then dominating John Ryder, Jermell Charlo, Jaime Munguía, and Edgar Berlanga is a sign of losing confidence. I mean, say what you want about avoiding Benavidez, but his recent performances in the ring he's looked as dominant and as confident as ever.