Hypothetical: Bivol beats Opetaia, Opetaia moves up and becomes undisputed. Where does Bivol rank

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  1. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Hypothetical scenario
     
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    mirkofilipovic ESB Management Full Member

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    I would put him top five Lightheavy of all time. Right next to Dariusz, Kovalev, Gvoz, Beterbiev.
     
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    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    There`s no connection there at all, if he beat Jai at cruiser then Jai moves up to beat heavyweights that doesn`t add to Bivol`s win at all because he wouldn`t have beaten the heavyweights that Jai beat.
     
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    Archie Moore's ghost will haunt you for this post mate .
     
  5. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    P4p number 1 and the best of the last generation if this played out

    Usyk goes from all time Super Goat to number 2 of the last decade. He may fall to 3 if bud beats canelo lol
     
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    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    If he does that, he goes down as the finest p4p boxer of his era and probably top 50 all time.
     
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    Ezzard Charles? Archie Moore? Michael Spinks? RJJ?

    And I have no idea why you tried to sneak Gvozdyk into that list.
     
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    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Surely that must be a troll post ? He mentioned Gvozdyk who made a grand total of 1 title defence lol.

    Gvozdyk wouldn't even be in the top 50 let alone top 5.

    Top 5 should be like Michael Spinks, Ezzard Charles, Gene Tunney, Archie Moore, Tommy Loughran.
     
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    JOSEY WALES Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Who knows ? Maybe he's just started following the sport mate .
     
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    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I hope so mate.
     
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  11. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    Big what if's there...

    Especially for Jai to move up and go undisputed.

    But also, lots of ifs around what the next heavyweight era is going to look like, how stacked it'll be and how much going undisputed in it will even mean.


    Honestly it's such a pie in the sky question I don't think it can be answered meaningfully.