Fury will not acknowledge his defeats

Kenny Norton in Champions Forever described his plan to beat Foreman as 'I'd keep backing up, backing up and counter'. Asked what happened he said 'I backed up, backed up some more and fell over...'...

 

This inability to accept defeat may well be what makes these men the men they are....

 

Fury didn't even acknowledge his loss and said Usyk only got the decision because of the war. That's definitely a worse sportsmanship than throwing the belts out of the ring in rage because of the defeat and apologizing for it later. Fury has no remorse, stil ldelusional that he won.

We don't need to suspect anything. AJ and Fury signed for the fight in 2021, but Wilder won the arbitration so Fury had to fight him. So that's that. Also, Wilder is on record saying he chose to fight Fury instead of AJ even tho AJ's camp offered him more money. Also, both Wilder and Fury said they want to freeze out AJ.

 

May well be, yes - with both positive and negative outcomes.

Ultimately there are different combinations of abilities and mentalities that can still be successful - what works for one doesn't have to work for all.

There's something scary about Usyks ability to be both ridiculously skilled and yet humble - but there's also something scary about a ripped but incredibly basic guy with endless arrogance who knocks out almost everyone he faces (even if most of them aren't that good).

 

The most accurate non bias approach is the Fan scoring on box rec.
Fight 2 is 115-114 Usyk so the difference being how 1 close round was interrupted.

Fight 1 is 116-111 Usyk a bigger margin.

People trying to claim he lost clearly in fight 2 is a bit of a stretch. If it's that close Fury is certainly capable of beating the guy. There's no shame in being 1b to a 1a. It does very little to diminish the fighter Fury it's basically how you score one round which was interpreted various ways by many different various judges. In fact a Draw would of been a fair verdict based on a 115-114 scorecards by over 1000 fans scored the bout. It's more powerful than any one option.

Trying to his diminish the legacy of Fury on a fight that close is rather agenda driven. He hanged with the best of this generation & the best of the previous generation in Wladimir.

I agree with the logic he can't accept defeat, he cat called Wilder for doing the very same thing & then turned around & did it himself. But many many boxers are guilty of this sin. It shouldn't make you dislike the fellow.

Not as loses are created equal & some people treat then the same..
Marciano barely beat Ezzard Charles (it proves on any other given night charles could of beat him) The very same applies to Fury. On any other given night He would of been capable of beating him.

If two fighter's fight 5 times and one wins 3 out 5 is he really lightyears better than his opponent? No he was just better on that given night. Just look at beterbiev vs bivol. The very same should apply to Fury & Ezzard Charles is my way of thinking.

Is Usyk lightyears better than Fury no. Neither was Walcott lightyears ahead of Charles.
They are close enough your 1a & 1b

 

Again, I'd see this as not giving Usyk his proper due.

Are we to try and push the idea that Usyk-Fury 2 was more like a draw? Not the punch stats, official scorecards or general consensus are aligned with the idea. In the rematch Fury may have appeared (and likely felt) more in control, but this was relative to being pinged across the ring in fight one. It was essentially a game of tit-for-tat for six rounds, and then Usyk took over as he always does.

We can still give Fury credit for a great showing in fight one without bending reality.

He is clearly 2, not 1b.

 

Weak character then! From a man who preaches a lot it is a **** weak mentality.

Out of all the HW I think losing to Usyk would be the easiest. No ego whatsoever. Just skill, humility and professionalism. Maybe that's what eats at Fury, stewing in his head.

 

I suspect when any fighter loses twice to Usyk, they suffer what's believed to be a condition known as, Usykification stage 2 syndrome...

It generally leaves them totally and mentally in denial in the end, such is the severity of said condition.

The earlier, first or second fight loss symptoms of losing to Usyk, can usually be seen or heard immediately after a Usyk loss, after the judges decisions have been made.

Fury's early example of Usykification was publicly wishing everyone a Happy New Year in the middle of May..... and AJ's was his massive verbal and physical meltdown after fight two...



God knows what the handily mental cap consequences severity would be if one was to lose 3 times to Usyk.....

 

Brilliant post
I laugh. Very laugh. Denialism is a harsh symptom when someone loses to Usyk, let alone twice.

 

Funnily enough, I think the fighter who may not have suffered as bad mentally had they fought twice, would have been Chisora ...


Mind you, Chisora can be very thick skinned.

 

Difference is Fury hasn’t been knocked out or quit in a fight. AJ’s self-belief has been demolished so thoroughly that he has to concede inferiority.

 

How would Joshua argue he didn't lose to Dubois, though?



Joshua didn't seem very accepting of defeat when he grabbed the microphone after the Usyk fight and tossed the belt out of the ring.

But he received a thorough pasting against Dubois and refused the rematch. Some beatdowns are too difficult to ignore.

Apparently, Fury hasn't been on the receiving end of one of those yet.

 

Right. I agree.

 

This thread is hilarious.

Almost all elite fighters believe they won in close fights. It's part of what drove them to become elite fighters. Everyone is in an uproar about this because it's Fury.

Meanwhile, Joshua literally throws the rightful winners belts out of the ring like a cry baby child, pushes an older member of the opposite camp, and he's "humble" and "can accept defeat"?

Fury haters are the GOAT.

 

Fury is a delusional scumbag liar, just like Trump. Never taken blame for anything in their lives, always a bs excuse.