Which of these Mythical Match-ups would you want to watch?

Fight results:
Frazier by 10th round stoppage ,Foreman couldn't keep Frazier down so a 185 pound man won't either
Foreman Ko's Tyson in 2, a 5'11 short armed heavyweight who comes forward winging punches can't stand in front of George Foreman
Ali by UD over Louis,, Ali's just too quick for Joe to set his feet and throw his shots

 

I luv the thought of all 3 mouth watering fantasy match-ups, but I went for the Tyson-Formean vote!


I do like fireworks on a Saturday night...

 

Hey guys don’t mean to hijack this thread or anything just thought this would be relevant.

All three fights are amazing each for different reasons, I’ve written an in depth analysis on them in my book Undisputed for anyone interested.

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Main Event: Joe Louis vs. Muhammad Ali

If you asked any boxing historian or aficionado who they consider to be the best heavyweight of all time, the two most common names mentioned would be Joe Louis and Muhammad Ali. If there was a Mount Rushmore of heavyweight greats, Louis and Ali would be the first two picks without question.

Both bring the highest level of achievements ever seen in the division. With Louis having enjoyed a twelve-year reign as champ with a record-setting twenty-five title defences, he was head and shoulders above his contemporaries. Ali, on the other hand, was the first ever three-time world heavyweight champion, three-time lineal world heavyweight champion, Olympic gold medallist and the best fighter of his respective era, which was dubbed the “golden years” for the division. Visiting either fighter’s trophy room would require sunglasses.

Surprisingly there are quite a few career parallels between these two greats. During their best years Louis and Ali defeated the best competition available and avenged all losses.

Each fighter was enlisted to serve in the military. Louis acquiesced and the infamous “bum of the month” was coined for all the sub-par fighters he crushed while entertaining the troops. Ali decided to refuse participation and was stripped of his title, licence and lost three years of his career.

Towards the end of their careers both suffered a couple of defeats they were unable to avenge and both Louis and Ali were able to pass the torch to the next generation’s dominant fighter in Marciano and Holmes, respectively.

Looking at the tale of the tape Ali is an inch taller and has two inches in reach but, more importantly, has twenty pounds in weight over his opponent.

In terms of power, Louis is the much harder hitter with dynamite in both fists. He also has fast hands and excellent combination punching.

Ali definitely has much faster feet. For hand speed I would also give the edge to Ali, but it is close. Chin and ring IQ are also in Ali’s favour, with stamina and heart pretty much equal between the two.

The fight will come down to Ali’s speed and movement versus Louis’ powerful combination punching and finishing ability.

The fight brings huge international attention with politicians, celebrities and the like all clamouring for a ticket to what some are describing as the most monumental boxing fight in the history of the sport.

There has never been a contest among two fighters who dominated their divisions for such long periods. Louis was the man in the thirties and forties and he is colliding with the best fighter of the sixties and seventies. A true generational battle that transcends the sport and will easily be the most watched sporting event in history.

Pundits are analysing this fight meticulously and sixty percent are leaning towards an Ali win, but no one is picking with confidence and the bookies are taking a record number of bets.

The showdown is booked for the MGM Grand in Las Vegas, with fans flocking from around the world to witness history in the making.

With the fans seated, the National Anthem finishes and the MC begins: “Ladies and Gentlemen, introducing first from Louisville, Kentucky, USA, weighing 214 pounds: the Greatest, Muhammad Ali!”

The crowd erupts as he makes his way to the ring, security pushing back rabid fans just trying to touch him. Ali has his fight face on. There is no acknowledgement of the crowd and no smiles, just pure focus on the task at hand. He enters and lifts a customary hand in the air to gesture to the crowd. They eat it up, cheering, whooping and going wild for their favourite.

The MC continues: “Now from Chambers County, Alabama, USA, weighing 194 pounds: the Brown Bomber, Joe Louis!”

On cue the crowd cheer and holler for Louis as he methodically makes his way to the ring. The commentators compare the look on his face to the same one he had during the rematch against Max Schmeling: complete and utter focus; an almost tunnel vision on the task at hand.

Once instructions are complete, both fighters walk to their corners, take off their robes and the bell rings.

Commentator Jim Lampley observes that he has never seen a crowd at fever pitch before a punch has even been thrown. Fans for both fighters are chanting in unison, “Louis! Ali! Louis! Ali!” Trumpets are blowing in a wild and frenzied atmosphere.

The first round begins with both fighters coming out cautiously and pawing their jabs while finding their range. Neither commits too much and are clearly wary of the man in front of them.

Ali starts dancing and circling Louis, throwing his fast jab and following it up with some quickfire shots, then evading the response.

Louis is impressed with the hand and foot speed his foe possesses and is struggling to get a read on things. It doesn’t help that each time he gets close enough to throw his own bombs, Ali effortlessly glides out of position. Louis has already noticed the so-called errors in Ali’s style – leaving his hands low and pulling back from punches – but every time he tries to capitalise, he misses and is met with an onslaught of stringing shots, most of which he can’t see. Thankfully they don’t hurt too much, but it’s already starting to annoy him.

The first round is clearly Ali’s. Louis’ corner plead with him to rely on his jab and not to chase him, but to let Ali approach him.

While Louis is trying to get a rhythm going, the Greatest is simply sticking to his own game plan: no trading shots, stick and move. Ali’s foot speed is really showing, with the Brown Bomber just not able to get close enough.

Rounds Two to Five are all Ali’s, who easily dominates proceedings with his beautiful combinations and movement. During a clinch Ali winds up his opponent, saying, “I thought you would be better. You hit like a girl.”

Round Six and Ali is starting to take his foot off the gas, not dancing around as much and lingering in dangerous positions a bit too long. Louis is more than happy to take advantage and starts throwing some blistering combinations. A hard left hook rocks Ali’s head back and forces him to tie up. Louis is starting to cut the ring off more effectively and senses his chance to get back into the fight.

Rounds Seven to Nine go to Louis, who seems to be getting stronger. He ploughs forward and maneuvers Ali into the corner, then throws some vicious punches. A left jab, right cross and a left hook all land clean, forcing Ali to hold. Still, he shakes his head and signals to the crowd that that was nothing.

Towards the end of Round Nine, with Ali against the ropes, a crunching left hook from Louis lands on the button and Ali falls back into the ropes and is down. With the ref at five he manages to get to his feet and has a defiant, if not wary, look on his face.

Louis comes in and lands a couple of hard shots, but Ali is too smart. He holds effectively and smothers Louis’ work to see out the round.

With the knockdown the fight has tipped in Louis’ favour and with three rounds to go it’s anyone’s fight. Ali’s corner is screaming at him to wake up and go back to the game plan or else he’ll lose the biggest fight of his career.

Ali shakes his head, rises and beckons Louis in while grandstanding to the crowd. As requested, Louis comes out looking to end things, but Ali has recovered and is in no mood to mess around. He’s back on his feet, dancing and firing his jab while following it up with some nice combinations that come in like a whip.

Louis is tiring and with his leaky defence is eating way too many shots. An overhand right from Ali stuns Louis, but he manages to stay on his feet.

Into Round Eleven and Ali is getting stronger. The commentators can’t believe where he’s found the energy, still throwing punches with the same frequency he did in the opening round. Again, Louis is just too slow footed to land anything significant and Ali just peppers him for the duration of the round.

The final round and both fighters are feeling the effects of a tough, hard-fought fight, but being the absolute warriors they are, the thought of losing or retreating never crosses either’s mind. Instead, both come out looking to finish the fight in style.

Louis is throwing everything at Ali. His punches still pack a whole lot of venom and when he manages to land some nice one-two shots, Ali covers up, knowing another knockdown could swing the fight.

Once Louis finishes his combination Ali throws his own, landing three out of four punches. With the crowd reacting to every punch that lands, the atmosphere is electric.

Both fighters land meaningful shots and the round could go either way. The bell sounds and both embrace, informing the other they are the best fighter they’ve ever faced.

Verdict: Split Decision win to Ali.

 

FOTC Frazier vs. Marciano has the potential of being the best fight in the history of mankind therefore that would be my pick.

Ali vs. Louis would be a very interesting high quality technical fight that would likely go the distance.

Foreman vs. Tyson would be a mismatch, but it would be fun to watch Foreman bounce Tyson around like a basketball for a few rounds. Prime Foreman is by far the worst style match-up for Mike.

 

Yeah it would be Foreman v Tyson for me too. I can see the likes of prime Ali an Holmes using their boxing skills along with their durability to frustrate Tyson enough to take him into the late rounds an wear him down but someone like Foreman is just made for Tyson. Foreman is the harder puncher but speed kills an Tyson has the handspeed an combinations from different angles to beat the lumbering wide swinging Foreman to the punch in any exchange. It will be exciting while it lasts kinda like Foreman v Lyle but Tyson with win by the mid rounds

 

Foreman couldn't keep Frazier down? ???
Fraziers face was on the canvas more than his feet were.

 

1.Watching Foreman back up a prime Mike Tyson.

2. Marciano's suzie q vs Frazier's left hook

3. Ali dancing around Joe Louis.

4. Toshiki vs Masoud

5. Dixon vs Shin

In that order.

 

Marciano vs Frazier would be the best actual fight by a mile. Two men who don’t stop, who only come forward.

I go with Frazier. He’s a bit bigger, he’s a lot quicker (watch the hand speed of his left hook), he’s every bit as tough and mean, and he’s got the stamina to match.

 

You, my friend, are a very entertaining man.

 

Wow those are some matchups! I like Marciano, Foreman and Ali in those flights. The one that interests me most is Muhammad Ali versus Joe Louis, it would be so interesting to see possibly the greatest combination puncher pound for pound of all time versus possibly the smoothest boxer pound per pound of all time, plus they are my number one and two heavy weights.

 

Foreman v Tyson would be the most entertaining IMO

 

Hot take but i see only Frazier vs Marciano being the only real competitive fight out of the 3 fights.

I've changed my mind on Tyson vs Foreman i see this as a bad style match up for Tyson he can't fight on the backfoot vs Foreman and he would be getting pushed back and hit with devastating uppercuts.

Louis had trouble vs movers and a prime Ali i think would dance rings around him and win a pretty convincing decision.