Anthony joshua is one of the biggest frauds in boxing

Are you suggesting AJ won 9-3?

 

He's suggesting Aj possibly won 5 rounds I believe, because he is adding total punches, rather than per round

Everyone on this forum is adamant Usyk won the first 3, or least 2 of the first 3 rounds of the first Fury fight. Punch stats aren't everything, but are we to believe them when it suits or agenda and disregard them if they don't back up our arguments?

I don't believe aj won 4 rounds in that fight any way of the imagination, but I may entertain the possibility. But 5 rounds? That's sheer delusion

 

Nah, I'm suggesting AJ clearly won 4 rounds and maybe won 5 but I won't be arguing about it. I'm also suggesting the rematch was competitive until round 10. So he basically won similar amount of rounds Fury won in both of his fights.

 

Which 4 rounds did he clearly win? What are your reasons for him winning these rounds? I'm interested and I would go back and watch, see if we agree

I remember thinking he won 3 rounds

 

You love to argue punch stats

Joshua won the first 2 rounds if punch stats are to be believed and usyk won the next 6 rounds in a row. I remember usuk not doing great/taking round 9 off, Joshua won that round. However, Usyk dominated the final 3 rounds.

So how did Joshua win 4? He certainly didn't arguably win 5, that's absolute nonsense. You should admit you are wrong about that and move on

 

Haven't watched it in a while. I checked my scorecard and I gave 1, 2, 8 and 9 to AJ, having the 3rd as a swing. Gotta see it again for the comprehensive argument. And as I said, I'm not dying on the hill that AJ won 5 rounds there, but it's not as controversial as saying Fury won either of Usyk fights and there are many of idiots who say that.

Well, the punch stats are there for a reason, right? Seeing the punch stats fairly even there is nothing controversial about saying first 9 rounds were competitive. Because how do you define competitive otherwise?

AJ also won the 8th and 7th was fairly close too. There it is, a competitive fight.

 

Not really
You said he definitely won 4, so what 4th round did he definitely win that's not open for debate? He won 1,2 and 9, so what is this big 4th?

You didn't son me, you are an absolute moron as usual lol

Least I can own up when I am wrong
Arguing for 5 rounds lol. Silly

 

I already broke it down for you, should have read my post instead of starting the emoticon war where I had to tap you on the head.

You and owning up you were wrong? Well that's new, lol.

 

Those stats are a bit misleading though.

Joshua had a big 9th round where he outlanded Usyk 28-9.

Prior to that Joshua had been outlanded in 6 out of the 8 rounds.

It was a competitive fight for sure and i don't think Usyk was dominating Joshua but he was edging most of the rounds clearly and then separated himself from Joshua in the later rounds.

I think Fury in the 1st fight did make Usyk more uncomfortable than what Joshua did but overall i don't think there's much difference between the fights in terms of scoring. And Joshua's 28 punches landed against Usyk in the 9th round is the 2nd most landed punchers ever against Usyk in a single round with only Briedis landing more in a single round with 33 punches.

 

You're right. I didn't take it into consideration.

I can 100% agree with that. My thing was, this was definitely a competitive fight.

That was the best round out of every one AJ/Fury had against Usyk.

 

Landed more shots, but Fury hurt him more and usyk looked more uncomfortable in the middle rounds. Despite almost being stopped in the 9th, it's a no brainer that Fury has been the most competitive vs usyk since Breidis. Over the 4 fights, I'd say Fury performed better than Joshua. I think that's kind of universal?

Good post from you as usual. Credit to the forum

 

This is such a stupid thread… and 21 pages of it….

Anthony Joshua is a former heavyweight champion who fought some decent contenders and even some great champions…

How does a fraud end up in fights that he loses against good fighters such as Ruiz and DuBois, let alone a bonafide great one like Usyk?

Besides the point but since it is being mentioned here: The comparison to Fury’s fights with Usyk:

I agree with the sentiment that Fury gave him a tougher fight.. Many people, myself included, felt Fury had taken control of the fight and was set to win it during the mid rounds before he got hurt..

Nothing ever happened in any of the AJ fights that caused anyone to think AJ might win, even for a moment… even with him winning a round or two…. it was indeed a competitive fight though, and I was impressed with AJs improvement from fight 1 to 2, even though his post fight antics had me face palming.

 

People seem to forget that a fighter can win 120-108 and still have been in a very competitive fight. The points don't always tell the story of the fight. Usyk’s fights with Fury and AJ were very competitive.