the what fights did you watch today\scorecard thread.

Victor Galindez v Yaqui Lopez I (light heavyweight title)

Round 1: 10-9 Lopez
Round 2: 10-9 Galindez
Round 3: 10-9 Galindez
Round 4: 10-9 Lopez
Round 5: 10-9 Galindez
Round 6: 10-9 Lopez
Round 7: 10-10 Even
Round 8: 10-9 Galindez
Round 9: 10-9 Galindez
Round 10: 10-9 Galindez
Round 11: 10-10 Even
Round 12: 10-10 Even
Round 13: 10-9 Galindez
Round 14: 10-9 Galindez
Round 15: 10-9 Galindez

Total: 147-141 Galindez (actual scores: 147-140, 146-145 and 148-146 all for Galindez)

Tough fight all the way. Yaqui did very well when he stuck to the jab and sharp-shooted with the right, but when Galindez would attack it would take him out of his game. I couldn't agree more with Jerry Quarry when, in the 15th, which was a particularly dirty round on the part of Galindez, he stated that why continue to caution a fighter if you're never going to take a point? He pointed out that the fighter doing the infraction can just do it all night if there is no deduction. And he was right. Galindez knew that Stanley Christodolou was never going to take a point. I personally have never seen him take a point from any fight he reffed. That gave Galindez license to kill. Still an admirable job Yaqui did in there where he could.

 

James Toney vs Montel Griffin 2

1 Toney
2 Griffin
3 Griffin
4 Toney
5 Toney
6 Griffin
7 Toney
8 Toney
9 Griffin
10 Griffin
11 Toney
12 Griffin

114-114 Draw

Toney did slightly better in the rematch he seemed to be more active with the jab and targeted the body of Griffin with the jab also. Griffin was pretty much the same awkward/slippery and trying to go to Toney's left to create punching angles.

But yet again just like the 1st fight Toney didn't press enough in the later rounds when he really could've stamped his authority on the fight. His corner pleaded with him to go all out in the 12th round but he did virtually nothing in the round letting Griffin dance around him and get a free round.

A few things to note about this fight.....

Lederman's scorecard and the HBO team were way off on this fight they seemed to suggest Toney won this fight handily that is complete nonsense and Lederman's scorecard of 117-111 is ridiculous.

But saying that one of the judges scorecards was even worse in actual fact it might be one of the worst scorecard's i've ever seen 119-109 to Griffin ? what in the world was he watching ?

But all in all another decent tactical fight but Toney yet again didn't press enough in the later rounds.

 

Carl Froch vs Andre Ward

R1 - 10-9 Ward
R2 - 10-9 Ward (close)
R3 - 10-9 Ward
R4 - 10-9 Ward
R5- 10-9 Froch (close)
R6 - 10-9 Ward
R7 - 10-9 Ward
R8 - 10-9 Ward
R9 - 10-9 Froch (close)
R10 - 10-9 Ward (close)
R11 - 10-9 Froch
R12 - 10-9 Froch

116-112 Ward

 

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Pipino Cuevas vs Randy Shields
1: Pipino 10-9
2: Pipino 20-18
3: draw 30-28
4: Shields 39-38
5: Shields 48-48
6: Shields 57-58
7: Pipino 67-67
8: Pipino 77-76
9: Pipino 87-85
10: Shields 96-95
11: Pipino 106-104
12: Shields 115-114
13: Pipino 125-123
14: draw 135-133
15: Shields 144-143

Very tough back and forth brawl, Pipino wasn't as one dimensional as I thought but still counts 1 of them for me,either way the fact that despite his sporadic stamina,he managing to throw a good amount of power punches that late is crazy.


And for Shields...he was a tough man alright,and he's probably one the most underrated do-it-all type of boxer,he can fight on the inside,keep his distance and frame,and take tough punches,he can't crack for good but his great heart and well rounded skills covered up for that.


The last 3 rounds will decide the fight,if Randy managed to win 2,he'll get a draw for this one which adds so much more to his resume,if he wins the 13th he would've made a huge upset and get the belt he absolutely deserved as a fighter.

 

Thanks to you and @scartissue for sharing your scores — and my joy in this fight being rediscovered via Vintage Boxing on YouTube.

Please jump in anyone else. I’d love to see some more opinions. This is a hella interesting fight with lots of shifts of fortune.

Every time I thought Randy was fading and on the verge of being overcome, he roared back. And when it looked like he had shifted the tide, Pipino knuckled down and turned it back his way. Really, really good 15-round fight.

Randy went the distance with Pipino and pre-title Ray Leonard and was beaten by Hearns in 12 on a cut fighting basically one-handed with a left shoulder injury. Didn’t seem at any point to be majorly hurt vs Cuevas or Hearns (nor by Leonard, I suspect, but that one apparently doesn’t exist on film). Dude had a granite chin.

 

This fight though,makes me a bit suspect about Pipino's stamina too,he can throw the same bombs from the early rounds,but not as effective as what you would call a late round great rally..

 

Don’t think I can make that leap: Cuevas stopped Angel Espada in 10 and 11 in their second and third meetings, retired Harold Weston in 10 (breaking his jaw or eye socket … or maybe both) and won the Mexican welter title on a 10th-round stoppage before becoming a world champ.

Not a lot of guys made it past the middle rounds, or even early, rounds past Pipino’s power, so I figure those later stoppages speak pretty well to him being able to carry his pop longer into a fight. And it’s not like Shields didn’t prove his beard vs Hearns.

There’s also the question of Cuevas hurting his left hand. He fought about five months later, so probably not broken, but it may have impacted how often he threw it and how he threw it.

Also, it’s not like he was stumbling to the finish line vs Shields and seemed out of gas.

 

Good points,but I'm still a bit aware of Pipino's likeliness to roar back in bursts,then disappearing again.

The reason I'm thinking about this is because of the dream match between him and Palomino,despite the fact that if Cuevas caught Palomino in the early rounds he'll end up in the canvas, Palomino would grew stronger round by round and keep up a pace that slowly increases with his intense body shots,on the other side, Pipino would start of well,then all things went rocky as he goes back and forth trying to finish his opponent,until s point where he finally caught them/they gave up from that sheer determination.

My odds would be 70/30 for Palomino but Pipino is a live dog.

 

Oliver McCall vs Larry Holmes

Round 1: 10:9 Holmes
Round 2: 10:9 Holmes
Round 3: 10:9 McCall
Round 4: 10:9 Holmes
Round 5: 10:9 Holmes
Round 6: 10:9 Holmes
Round 7: 10:9 McCall
Round 8: 10:9 Holmes
Round 9: 10:9 McCall
Round 10: 10:9 McCall
Round 11: 10:9 McCall
Round 12: 10:9 McCall

114-114 DRAW

 

One thing this fight and a few others underscore is that most of the behavior we saw out of McCall in his ‘meltdown’ vs Lennon Lewis in their rematch, we’d see before.

I can’t remember if this is one of them, but I know we’d seen Oliver crying on his way to the ring before Lewis. And against Holmes several times he did his ‘turn your back and walk away’ move.

The real difference in the Lewis II fight is how Oliver behaved between rounds, when he wouldn’t go back to his corner nor engage with them when he did. They were obviously disgusted with him. But the other stuff — ‘oh, he’s walking away from Lennox,’ and ‘oh he was crying on the way to the ring’ — was basically common for McCall.

 

Thanks to @FThabxinfan for bringing up Tough Tony Pellone

Charley Fusari v Tony Pellone II

In their first fight Pellone won by decision, but Fusari turned the tables on him in the rematch and fought for the title in his next bout. I won't run a card here as I only gave Pellone a share of rounds 1 and 4 and the rest to Fusari. Fusari carried the freight most every round. A number of rounds Tony would explode with a haymaker and the crowd would cheer him on, but Fusari's shots were unrelenting and were taking a toll in the latter stages of the fight until finally, in the 10th, Tony crashed to the canvas and the ref, quite rightly, stopped the fight when Tony got up. Pellone was one tough son of a gun and made a name for himself on that toughness. A good, tough fight.

 

I had 4 rounds for Fusari,4 other for Pellone and the 9th being a draw,but it was a good fight.

It thought Pellone had a frustrating style,non stop bob and weaving.

 

Yeah, that was like a prelude to what happened later against Lewis.

 

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Vey good fight.
Rocky Marciano's commentary, while very solid, is actually only a bit more exciting than Don Dunphy. Lmao...

 

FT, I'm not surprised by our gulf in what happened as there was a fine line between Fusari's steady punching and Pellone's sudden explosions. It boils down to one's preferences. Incidentally, I was trying to find official scorecards through 9 but came up empty. I did find one report saying they gave Pellone a count in the 9th when he went down after a wild swing caused him to fall with his momentum. But this is clearly not true. You could hear the timekeeper start a count but the ref ruled no knockdown.