Deontay Wilder all time heavyweight ranking were does he stand?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by OddR, Apr 11, 2025.


Deontay Wilder all time heavyweight ranking?

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  2. Top 20

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  3. Top 30

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  4. Top 40

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  5. Top 50

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  6. Top 60

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  7. Top 70

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  8. Top 80

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  9. Top 90

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  10. Other (comment)

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  1. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I believe Bowe has one win over a Ring-ranked top-five opponent in his career.

    Because Holyfield wasn't ranked in the Ring top 10 when Bowe won the third fight.

    Golota may have been #5 when he was disqualified in the rematch with Bowe. Otherwise, I think that's it.

    It's really fascinating how few wins these guys have when you apply the same standard of measure (the ALMIGHTY Ring top 5 opponents) to them as people do to DEONTAY WILDER.

    I sure hope all these top 100 ratings reflect use the same criteria for everyone.
     
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  2. Rockin'

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    He stands at the bottom, on his knees, begging for inclusion.
     
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  3. Dubblechin

    Dubblechin Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Looks like Ken Norton cracked three wins over Ring Top-five ranked opponents.

    (Thanks to Duane Bobick and his top five Ring rating.)
     
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  4. Rockin'

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    When Bowe got to throwing down he never had the form of a beginning boxer, atleast he could throw a punch straight. Wilder looked like a young amateur whenever things got heated.

    Byrd would have him tied up in knots.

    The fact that Wilder even won a title just goes to show how that current crop of Heavyweights was a dismal pool of talent.
     
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  5. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Liston and Wilder both had careers that culminated in crossing paths with a heavyweight who was near the top ever h2h. Liston embarrassed himself twice whereas Wilder got a draw in one of the fights and almost knocked the other guy out in 2 of 3 fights. And I also think Luis Ortiz would sweep Liston's opponents fairly easily until running into Ali.
     
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  6. McGrain

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    Let's say that that is true.

    Does it land for you that this would be the equivalent - almost - of Wilder going 2-1 with Fury, instead of 0-1-2 with the 1 being a bad egg?

    Do you understand the enormous gap that even that truth would reveal in the relative rankings of Wilder and Bowe?

    Because Holyfield will appear above Fury on most lists, and even if he appeared below him, Wilder was thrashed by Fury while Bowe won the series with Holyfield.
     
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  7. NoNeck

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    It's clear that Wilder does something to your feelings. And Bowe looped his right hand anyway.
     
  8. NoNeck

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    There's little suggest that Holyfield was better than Fury h2h.
     
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  9. McGrain

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    I do disagree with that probably but it doesn't really matter. It's not the salient point. It's not the most important thing about their records.

    What's important is that Holyfield is a contender for the top 10 all time and a lock for the top 20 all time - and Wilder got taxed by Fury. The relative head to head merits of the opponents is interesting but of not a great deal of significance (most especially because it's hard to gauge and impossible to prove).
     
  10. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    There is no rule that beating a guy with a better resume is better than beating a guy who is better h2h. You invented that.
     
  11. Rockin'

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    He certainly does.

    Are you some how implying that the crop of Heavyweights that he came up in were some how superior, rather than inferior, to the crops of Heavyweights that came before him?
     
  12. McGrain

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    I - didn't invent that and I don't believe.

    Jesus Christ.
     
  13. NoNeck

    NoNeck Pugilist Specialist

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    Fury is the only guy in history to outbox Wlad. He wasn’t worse than Holyfield.
     
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  14. NoNeck

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    Luis Ortiz was one of the best ever to not win a title.
     
  15. McGrain

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    Thank you.