Who wins in their prime Andre “SOG” Ward vs Super Joe Calzaghe

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Who wins Andre Ward vs Joe Calzaghe

  1. Ward

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    26.1%
  2. Calzaghe

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    73.9%
  1. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Great fight.

    Ward had a superb intellect, tremendous mental fortitude/self-belief, and terrific all-around craft. He also understood and practiced the "dark arts" in the ring as well as any fighter over the last 30-40 years.

    Calz, on the other hand, was a speedy volume puncher with good feet and plenty of confidence. He was tough, always came to win, and had a great engine.

    I think it comes down to Ward's in-fight adjustments vs Calz's work rate down the stretch.

    I suspect two, maybe even three fights are needed to settle the issue.
     
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  2. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    With a decent ref, Joe on points

    Ward was horrible to watch and one of the dirtiest fighters in the last 20 years
     
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  3. DominateBox

    DominateBox New Member banned Full Member

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    The poll shows the truth. Andre Ward wasn't on Joe Calzaghe's level
     
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  4. DominateBox

    DominateBox New Member banned Full Member

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    Nonsense. Kovalev beat Ward, and to this day Soviets having been dominating that division whereas the american LHW's aren't good enough,

    Michael Spinks and Marvin Johnson are seen as two of the greatest Light Heavyweights of all time. Yet Vyacheslav Lemeshev beat them BOTH.

    Look at him here beating Marvin Johnson like it's a walk in the park, with ease. The talent difference was massive. Lemeshev was on a whole another level.

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    I mean could you imagine if the Soviet Union fighters like the superb Lemeshev could have been able to turn pro all those years they couldn't.
     
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  5. DobyZhee

    DobyZhee Loyal Member

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    They never fought which is pathetic..
     
  6. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Ward beat Kovalev twice and in the 2nd fight stopped Kovalev.
     
  7. DominateBox

    DominateBox New Member banned Full Member

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    Only on paper in controversial circumstances with Wards own personal judges and referee. Even your boy Floyd said this about Kovalev vs Ward 1 ''I like Andre Ward, but one thing about me, I call a spade a spade, he didn't win''
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    BTW, did you watch that Lemeshev vs Marvin Johnson fight? What did you think of it?:)
     
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  8. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    Ward won the fights period. Now I know many may not like it and are entitled to their feelings however feelings can lie but hard FACTS don’t like. Ward beat the racist vodka drinking SOB twice and stopped him in the 2nd fight.
     
  9. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Kovalev was robbed even Floyd said so.
     
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  10. West of Hollywood

    West of Hollywood Active Member Full Member

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    It would be close. SOG's strange brew of dirty tactics, self-belief, hypocrisy, ugly but effective skills, awkwardness, and even sanctimoniousness would cause Jones significant discomfort.
     
  11. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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  12. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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  13. African Cobra

    African Cobra The Right Honourable Lord President of the Council Full Member

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    No you changed your mind because you thought it will make you fit in better here. You are ****ing liar, a disgrace to your people and totally lacking in principles. You will never be a leader of men because you are a follower.

    Mayor my backside.

    The difference between us is integrity. You lack in this department as in the trouser department.
     
  14. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Nope you and the suspects hate me coz I used to be like you until I got involved in boxing on the ground floor you clowns still lie to yourself and you know it. And I know exactly who sent you that link.
     
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  15. Clinton

    Clinton Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    First off, I know nobody that considers Marvin Johnson one of the greatest lightheavies of all time. A borderline great maybe. But one of the best 175 pounders ever? Nah. If you do, fine. Second considering the stage at which fighters are at between their amateur and professional careers, it is fruitless to bring up the amateur careers when discussing the pro careers. Two different animals. For example Randy Shields beat Sugar Ray Leonard as an amateur. Augie Sanchez beat Floyd Mayweather in the ams. You mention Michael Spinks. He lost to Tommy Brooks in the final of the AAUs a year before he won the gold at the Olympics. Due to the stage in their careers, you cannot compare à fighter from the ams to the pros.
     
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