Deontay Wilder all time heavyweight ranking were does he stand?

If you are using a fight Wlad had at age 39 as evidence of anything by that same logic wouldn't we have to count Wilders losses to Zhang and Parker as proof they would always beat him? We can't pick and choose when to count past prime performance can we

 

We wouldn’t, because Wlad was on pfp lists and undisputed, whereas Wilder was beltless and accepted to be slipping already, especially against Zhang.

 

Two guys with quick, crappy reigns and one guy with no reign at all.

 

Wilder might not even be greater than Bowe if you leave out the Holyfield fights lmao

Wilder has like 3 ranked wins and they all suck. The only elite guys he ever faced were at the end of his career because he avoided everything relevant in the division for years and he lost to all of them.

 

I’ve upset you yet again with cold logic. It would be easier on you to simply stay off the forum and not have your feel good logic disturbed.

 

Sure buddy, keep believing Wilder's legacy on the same level as a guy who beat Holyfield twice lmao.

also, is your definition of 'cold logic' is just two lines with absolutely no context? And not even mentioning Wilder himself?

 

A taller Max Baer.

 

This is about it in a nutshell. I could understand an 80-100 position but around 100-130 odd is understandable as well.

 

He's definitely in the top 50. It's true he revived the division, which had been dormant since Klitschko's days, but you can't say he's the best just because he was there at the right time. Aside from Luis Ortiz, in both fights, the Cuban was ahead on points, but unfortunately, Wilder always turned the fight around with one punch. His first fight against Fury was controversial, and his challengers weren't particularly memorable, although I acknowledge that Duhaupas and Washington put on great fights against Wilder, but they weren't world-class. Then he lost his two bouts against Joseph Parker and Zhilei Zhang, who was already past his prime. He did beat Chisora, but it was an extremely close fight. So, you really can't rank him in the top 20 or 30, but rather in the top 50.

He remind me of Omar Narvaez, a powerful champion at 112 and 115 lbs during his period and a very popular one like Wilder, but aside from his victory over Olympic champion Brahim Asloum and his win against Bernard Inom, all his other challengers were more regional level, and just like Wilder, he lost his two big fights against Naoya Inoue and Zolani Tete.
Even though Omar Narvaez established himself as the second-best 112 lbs boxer of his era, behind Pongsaklek Wonjongkam, he will never be cited by anyone as being in the top 20 or 30 in the history of the category. The same at 115 lbs.