Terence Crawford vs. Sugar Ray Robinson ?

Nether guy has fought anyone like each other so yes we have to make assumptions

The far more skilled and refined boxer who has a far greater ring iq (most likely.. very much possibly due to being in a much later era) would win

The number 1 thing in predicting the outcomes of fights is the fighters abilities not resume

Lomachenko beat Russell
Lopez beat Lomachenko
Fury beat Wlad
Holmes beat Ali

Etc etc

Resumes are great and part of how you judge careers but you don't take that with you in fantasy fights minus the experience part but both Crawford and Robinson obviously have a ton of experience

The rest of your post trying to discredit Crawfords resume is irrelevant

He has a great resume and no Porter and Spence were not shot so let's stop that and let's stop moving the goal post for Terence Crawford like many members of this forum do

 

Crawford is great no one denies that but his level of opposition has been quite forgettable for a top P4P guy.

It's not like he's been in a great Welterweight era with the likes of Mosley, ODLH, Tito, Quartey, who were killers.

As of right now we don't truly know Crawford's ceiling because he hasn't really been tested by an upper echelon fighter.

Maybe if Crawford fights some of the dangerous opposition at 154 we can have a better gauge how good he is H2H.

 

No it's the opposite that's very relevant

New science and technology etc change things..

Not always but generally speaking

It's just a process of life and sports. Evolution

Things evolve

 

Porter who had 2 fights in 3 years ?

Spence car crash victim who had neurological damage and hasnt fought since ?

Crawford does not have a great resume stop it.....

Your examples are ridiculous.

Holmes was heavily favoured vs a shot Ali.

Wladimir was at the end of his career.

 

100%

 

Cutting off the ring was added to boxing later on... Was the idea of cornering a guy through lateral movement too advanced for men who lived in the past? They were taught just to run after a guy in circles?

 

I get that you're saying but I got Crawford beating every welterweight in history besides for Leonard and Hearns and even those are tough calls for me

 

Have you seen Joe Louis vs Billy Conn?

 

Evolution right.....

Like Fury being the best Heavyweight for numerous years looking like a guy who trained on beers and kebabs with love handles that's peak evolution right there.

 

We’ve already covered the evolution theory.


1. It’s not continuous.

2. Even if it was, the fights are always determined by how the two guys on the night match up stylistically

 

I just don't get this argument that boxers now are far superior how ?

What Heavyweight now looks as impressive as Tyson genetically or regarding the eye test in regards to his speed and power ?

What Middleweight now looks as good as Hagler ?

There's handful of boxers in the last 50 or 60 years that looked far more impressive on film.

RJJ
Toney
Hagler
Whitaker
Sanchez
Gomez
Ali
Hearns
Napoles
Spinks
Foster
Moore
Charles
Robinson
Tunney
Louis
Holmes
SRL
Duran
Chavez

The list goes on and on....

 

But that is ridiculous Joey.


Look at your thinking:

1. You have Leonard beating Terence.

2. You have basically scoffed at the notion that Ray could have beaten Terence, based upon the era that he fought in.


Yet consider the following:

1. Both Ray’s have very similar styles and attributes.

2. Many respected people throughout the sport’s history, including Leonard himself, have Robinson as being the better WW.


So it’s completely nonsensical to believe that Leonard could have beaten him, but that Robinson couldn’t have.

It makes no sense.

It’s an illogical opinion.

 

But that's a big assumption not really backed up with actual evidence of Crawford vs upper echelon opposition.

Curry
SRL
SRR
Napoles
Tito
Duran
Gavilan
Armstrong
ODLH
Mosley
Hearns

You can't seriously tell me Crawford has proven he's above most of these fighters H2H.

 

Heavyweight is different

The heavyweight division went down once the athletic Americans found other ways to get into sports to make money

Mainly the NBA

 

What is your point?