Someone's attempt to defending the Old Timers (sorta?)

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Getting used to being hit without falling off your game and the perception of a good chin might overlap somewhat.

Ali had a great chin but in supplement, he also conditioned himself to take punishment in order to attune his body to same in general and to be able to mentally fight through potential times of fogs and extreme hurt.

Then you have a guy like Joe Joyce who appeared to have an impervious chin - but still a guy who got hit all too easily and all too often - it seems his chin eventually gave out due to same.

That also appeared to be the case for Randy Cobb in the very late stages of his career.

I hear 60 yo McCall is still fighting. It would be a shame if some random dropped him to spoil his record of never having been dropped.

 

For the McCall part,at least the "random" could brag to his grandkids that he was stronger than Lennox Lewis and Larry Holmes combined.

 

True, he’d just be mindful not to mention Ollie’s age as at the time he pulled off the unique achievement.

 

As long as he don't allow his grandson to Google up Oliver McCall, he's fine.

 

Hi Flash.
Congratulations, a tour de force breakdown of the topic in question, inciteful, on point, and dripping with common sense, your flagging up of fighters not having many bouts per year as opposed to the old-timers ( by today's standards ) having lots is a very pertinent observation, over the last ten years or so, all we seem to hear is " camps " going into camp, not a long enough camp, bad camp, good camp, plus I heard a top rated fighter ( name escapes me ) putting his loss down to only having a 10 week camp, really !! since when do fighters need 3 months to get fighting fit, so they fight then have 2 months off I would imagine, then another 3 month camp, what's the most they can fight in one year 2/3 times, maybe they are getting paid huge sums, so don't see the need to fought more often, whereas the older fighters fought to live, anyway that's my 2 pennies worth.
Once again thanks for your excellent post buddy, chat soon.

 

I think being an active fighter, fighting more often generally is an advantage. When the lights are on, theres a certain pressure that goes with it as opposed to just sparring. Sugar Ray Robinson called it having the "feel of the ring" There's really nothing quite equal to real fights.

Boxing today is certainly superior in regards to safety.

 

I mean **** man, rules change, changes the way fighters fight. This isn't hard.

No, you're not better than before

No, before is not better than you

Evolution is still a theory so if you really believe the stupid **** you say take your ass to science and find out. No, do not blah blah adaptation at me, you do not understand the nuance there and call an evolution an adaptation to fit your misunderstanding of biology and boxing history.

Sports have evolved not human beings. Before you tell me adaptation doe, above bro, you don't understand what you are saying. Impossible for the oldens? Impossible? That requires evolution, stfu. Nothing YOU are is impossible for an ancient man to be. Nothing. Healthy? Yeah, guess what, they had that. Big? yup, had it.

All we are is more. Not healthier, more of us are healthy. Not taller, more of us are tall. Not bigger, more of us are bigger. Not dwarfs, more of us are dwarfs though.


No, your ****ing electric massager does not make you healthier than a perfectly healthy tribal hunter. Dumbass.




More pools of men, more sizes, more body types available, means you make changes to the sport to try to keep **** fair between them. It does not mean today's fighters are anything but as human and limited as yesterday's. Duh.

 

Remind me of the sports with a lower level of professional comp now than one hundred years ago.

 

Evidently only boxing is the exception. Every other sport is better now then in the past but boxing is the sole exception to that rule magically kinda funny.........

 

I get the feeling like a lot of posters here were jumping for joy when the Turkish pistol shooter took Silver at the Olympics without any fancy equipment.

Pretty much proves that Greb would beat Jones.

 

I don't know, why anyone would take the opinion of old-timers seriously! Aren't they supposed to always say, that today's boxing is nothing like it was back in their day... when everything of course was so much better (than what we have today)? Have we ever seen an old-timer come out and say, that today's boxers are superior to the old guys? I don't think so!

... also, I wasn't aware, that Harry Wills "made SRR"!

 

well tell that to the guy who posted it not me lol