Considering neither Benn nor Eubank have ever won a world title, why was their fight so hyped?

Discussion in 'World Boxing Forum' started by Perkin Warbeck, Apr 28, 2025.


  1. like a boss

    like a boss Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Don't derail the thread with the real reason.
     
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  2. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    My eyes don’t lie. According to Boxrec (your source) they had the same reach, and Joe was one inch taller. But if you actually watch the fight it’s clear Eubank was bigger, thicker and had a longer reach. Yet the inexperienced Calzaghe beat him easily.

    You can make all the excuses for Eubank you want, it’s obvious you are a fan, but he’s not the world-class boxer you believe. He avoided people like Roy Jones and James Toney because he would have been easily outclassed and dominated by either.

    I can see you love this man and I’m sorry if I hurt your feelings by not recognizing him as a world-class boxer. And you are right that I’ve never watched any of his fights except for the Calzaghe fight, not because I haven’t watched many fights from that time (I watched Jones and Toney’s fights) but because I never liked Eubank and never considered him to be world class. The US boxing media paid little attention to him, and there wasn't much boxing availability on the internet back in the 1990s.
     
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  3. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Yep I agree with this that is why I love the Aussie domestic fights they may not be at the highest level but they go in there with a point to prove and it is usually very entertaining. I feel that the UK and Australia have a similar boxing culture the US is different because they produce more elite fighters who don't usually fight each other unless there are world titles on the line.
     
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  4. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Brother you're not hurting my feelings I just think you're very harsh in your criticism.

    You're calling a fighter who had over 20 world title fights a domestic level fighter that's the whole issue I had with your original post.

    If you don't like Eubank fair enough you can dislike who you want that's up to you but I think you're being a bit unreasonable with your criticism.

    Yes his opposition wasn't the strongest and yes he's nowhere near an ATG and I consider him quite a long way off being great.

    But I consider him a good champion nothing exceptional but good nothing more nothing less.

    No he wasn't on Toney, RJJ, McCallum, etc level but if you put him in this era now between Middleweight/Super Middleweight he'd be one of the top fighters in either weightclass.
     
  5. Toney F*** U

    Toney F*** U Boxing junkie Full Member

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    Can Eubank Jr even make weight 2 more times?
     
  6. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Talk about a delusional post. Jesus both Eubank and especially Benn were at the tail end of thier careers when they lost to Collins.
    Jesus Maligna was a two time world champion and was a world class boxer for many years.
    Darius and Masks were LIGHTHEAVYs why would Benn or Eubank fight them when they were never in that weight class?
    Benn beat GERALD MCCLLEAN remember? The feared puncher at the time that was suppose to knock out Nigel?
     
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  7. Wizbit1013

    Wizbit1013 Drama go, and don't come back Full Member

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    You are having a nightmare here
     
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  8. heerko koois

    heerko koois Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    I don,t know.....could end bad for him
     
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  9. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Eubank was very clearly world class. He was ranked in the top ten of the world for about 5 years in a row.

    He didn't fight the American talents in terms of Toney, Jones Jr or Nunn. But likewise those three never fought Eubank, Benn or Collins.

    Especially given that SMW was a brand new division there just wasn't the demand for the fights to happen.

    I remember when Toney came on Jonathan Ross and said he'd beat them both on the same night, but then Toney lost to Jones Jr and he made it clear he wasn't bothered about unifying SMW.

    It's a shame because we could have had some great fights between them.
     
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  10. Perkin Warbeck

    Perkin Warbeck Boxing aficionado Full Member

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    Eubank was age 28 when he first lost to Collins, 29 for the second fight.
    McClennan was winning easily until the mediocre Benn got dirty and hit him with a deliberate and direct rabbit punch that permanently disabled him.

    With an honest referee Benn would have been disqualified.
     
  11. Cobra33

    Cobra33 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Eubank was never the same fighter after the Watson bout and age is meaningless due to the number of hard fights he had he was no longer prime by the time he met Collins.
    Gerald couldn't get Benn out of there and Benn came back and best him.
     
  12. haileris

    haileris New Member Full Member

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    :)
    he thinks if he says something 3 times in a row it must be true. Dorothy like
     
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  13. JusABoxinFan

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    The media did their job. They promoted the hell out of 2 warriors carrying on their fathers' legacy rivalry. It was great tv and a decent bout that shocked many because Benn was a heavy underdog due to size.

    We can't say that the media needs to shut up about a couple of active fighters who were doing their jobs to promote themselves and compete. All of these "many better fighters" that you speak of need to get dance partners that are appealing to the public. Better match ups and produce on fight night. The media will be talking about them too. Just because you can name fighters that are better than Benn and Eubanks doesn't mean they don't deserve the attention they got for their bout.

    You are coming off as a hater. Those guys did nothing wrong to you or anyone else. They are in this profession, and they got media coverage for it. So, what.
     
  14. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If he had to face the best though he probably never becomes champion of anything. He shared an era with Jones Hopkins Toney and Nunn and somehow failed to fight any of them
     
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