Holmes: Foreman a "fraud"

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  1. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    this is something a man doesnt do. wait til the man isnt here to talk garbage about him. holmes is one of the most bitter and ignorant men ever to come out of boxing. and theres a seriously high bar. i thought this about him even before he said this. i respect his skills, boxers should study his jab, but he doesnt impress me as a man.
     
  2. Glassbrain

    Glassbrain Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jealousy is a cruel mistress.

    I have always rated Foreman higher than Holmes, who was not only the benefactor of a weak era, and was saved several times, notably with the slow ass count vs Snipes.
     
  3. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    I’m not saying Larry didn’t say that- he’s always had that insecure, prickly way about him, but the “article” linked in the OP reads like a 2022 AI piece. Tell me what all you see wrong with just this one snippet:
    “After dethroning WBC champion Ken Norton to begin his reign as champion, Holmes would go on to rack up a number of impressive victories against the likes of Trevor Berbick, Tim Witherspoon and Muhammad Ali, before he was eventually dethroned by Leon Spinks in his 49th professional contest.”
    I think if Larry did call Foreman a fraud, we’ll be hearing a lot more about it.
     
  4. Charles White

    Charles White Chucker Full Member

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    Just to add a little context here, I think these secondsout articles take quotes from past interviews and try to present it as part of the present, so it wouldn’t surprise me if Holmes said this years ago and didn’t “wait until Foreman passed” before saying it. Just thought I’d throw that out there.
     
  5. Jackstraw

    Jackstraw Mercy for me, justice for thee! Full Member

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    That sounds more probable than Larry saying it recently.
     
  6. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    Holmes once said "Everyone says Ali is the greatest but I beat him". With a straight face too. Guy is a clown.
     
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  7. Charles White

    Charles White Chucker Full Member

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    Agreed
     
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  8. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Holmes is a classless dip****. Always has been. Ask Holyfield who gave him a tougher fight and I bet anything he’d say George.

    Also Holmes has always felt the need to **** on Morrison I notice. “Everybody know Morrison beat George” :rolleyes: Also has said other stuff trying to dismiss Morrison. Also Marciano as everyone knows.

    **** this clown. George was a better fighter and better dude than larry.
     
  9. Camps

    Camps Member Full Member

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    Agreeing... sloppy to say the least... and I am suspicious about the quality of the "journalism" here.

    That said, I wonder if this article hits Larry's radar.... should he take the time to refute it...?
     
  10. Arch Stanton

    Arch Stanton When you have to shoot, shoot!, don't talk...... Full Member

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    If this IS recent, Holmes is a bitter man....


    “Everybody know that George Foreman can’t fight, everybody know that Tommy Morrison kicked his butt, everybody know that Shannon Briggs kicked his butt"


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    ^ He's possibly still concussed....
     
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  11. KernowWarrior

    KernowWarrior Bob Fitzsimmons much bigger brother. Full Member

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    That statement was made by Holmes, as part of his induction speech at the 2008 International Boxing Hall of Fame Ceremony, and according to Holmes arose after Bert Sugar said he rated him behind Foreman
     
  12. oldcanvasback

    oldcanvasback Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly.. The quote could be 40 years old.
     
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  13. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Even if it’s not a recent comment, Holmes is a classless human being. The guy has zero charisma and has always been pissed that others get rated higher than him.
     
  14. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    JFC, did he really?

    How lacking in self-awareness do you have to be to say something like that? Wow.