One of Galindez best Wins vs Richie Kates I (cut badly in R3 Ko'ed Kates in R15 in South Africa 1976

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  1. TheEliteMaster100

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    PhD in badassery! Look at referee Stanley Christodoulou covered in blood.

    From the end of Bob Foster - Spinks Unification is quite easily a 175lbs golden age, more deeper than it's 40's counterpart

    Champions such as;
    Mike Rossman
    Dwight Muhammad Qawi
    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad
    Matthew Saad Muhammad
    Victor Galindez
    Mate Parlov
    John Conteh
    Marvin Johnson
    Spinks

    Contenders such as;
    Pierre Fouire
    Richie Kates
    Jesse Burnett
    Yaqui Lopez
    James Scott (Rahway Prisoner)
    Davies Brothers (Eddie and Johnny Davis)
    Jerry Martin
    Murray Sutherland

    Today's 175 crop aint' bad, certainly better than RJJ/ Virgil Hill era
     
  2. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Id love to see Beterbeiv mix it up in that era.

    Him vs Lopez, Saad, Mustafa, Galindez and Qawi would be absolutely brutal
    Even if I'd only pick him to win one.
     
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  3. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Galindez was a Class A champion, and truly, this ko over Kates was perhaps his finest win. He fought less conservatively this time due to the sheer desperation of being badly cut, and his great champion's heart carried him through. Galindez would own Kovalev, Beterbiev, Ward, and above all,..Canelo if he were around today. He'd beat every single one of them.
     
  4. red cobra

    red cobra Loyal Member Full Member

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    Truly, there wouldn't be that much mixing up,...although he (Galindez) very well could...I feel sure that he would have beaten Beterbiev from off the ropes....countering the Russki all night long, racking up points and winning a decision....VG could do that all night long...it was his winning formula. He was a supreme 15 round fighter.
     
  5. George Crowcroft

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    I meant I'd like to have seen him fight everyone.
     
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  6. TheEliteMaster100

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    Kovalev being prone to bodyshots would not want to face Yaqui lopez and Eddie Mustafa Muhammad, two killer body punchers. Look at Yaqui combination punches vs Saad (ATG Heart/Will boxer) and Eddie Mustafa Muhamamd vs Marvin Johnson/Jesse Burnett.

    Rossman showed you need to fight tenaciously on the inside to threat Galindez.

    You're right about Galindez being a great 15 round fighter, comes alive during the championship rounds something you see a lot with Ali, Eusebio pedroza, Salvador Sanchez and Arguello from that decade, knowing when to really pick up scoring points.

    Eddie Mustafa Muhammad problems other than weight later on were he regularly coasted through rounds without throwing punches, which costed him in several bouts.

    I belive Galindez was lucky to get the decision over Lopez (great contender who should get a nod in the IBHOF some day given the competition he faced like Joey archer of his time in the 1960's or Quarry with the golden age Heavyweights)
     
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  7. George Crowcroft

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    I know I've seen them, the more I watch of that era the more embarrassed I feel at picking Ward and Kovalev to beat Qawi a couple months back.

    I didn't say anything about Kovalev, I was talking about Beterbeiv. His inside short punches would see him stop Galindez imo.
     
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  8. Sting like a bean

    Sting like a bean Well-Known Member banned Full Member

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    Victor Galwndez Izzy light heavy weight champ. He hwooped Richie Kates but he cain hwoop me!!
     
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  9. HOUDINI

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    Back in those days all of Galendez bouts were shown live on free network tv. I never warmed up to him at that time but grew to realize he was a great fighter. Intelligent counter puncher and a heavy hitter.
     
  10. Bummy Davis

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    great era of Argentinian light heavyweights - pretty dominant
     
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    The original upload is no longer available, so here is a new version of it:
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    Here's a B&w version w/ Spanish-language commentary & more audible crowd noise:
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  12. Clinton

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    Great thread that has aged very well.
     
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  13. Fireman Fred

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    As a kid I saw (and read) a lot on Conteh, Saad, Spinks, Foster and Qawi. I only really heard about Galindez whilst watching a few Roldan fights with the Kates I bout mostly mentioned.

    Finally got footage (talking VHS days before Youtube) of him and I was a little disappointed. I kind of built him up in my mind as some sort of Marciano type of fighter but after watching Kates I, Rossman II and Ray Anderson I´ve come to appreciate his unique style.

    I still think Conteh would squeak by on a razor thin decision with fair judges but it would have been epic.

    Galindez would win a Foster (past it in Finnegan and Ahumada fights) unification by punishing late ko.
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  14. Saintpat

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    I have to think any other referee would have stopped it.

    Stanley was Victor’s pet referee — he either judged or reffed five of his title defenses and in four of those he both refereed and judged.

    Waldemar Schmidt was also a house judge for Victor, with him always there when Stanley wasn’t and them in tandem often.

    WBA could have been called the WBGalindez during this time period.

    The stoppage was obviously legit, but had Kates been the one cut, it would have been a blood stoppage for sure.
     
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  15. Kid Bacon

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    Well, actually
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    Galindez was bleeding so profusely that the referee decided to stop the fight and declare Kates winner. Of course, the Argentinian corner went mad protesting since they wanted Kates to be disqualified for headbutting, but it was considered non intentional. However, Galindez was granted 5 minutes to try to stop the bleeding and check if he was able to continue.

    A Doctor then examined Galindez on the spot and apparently decided he couldn't continue; but when the doctor's decision was communicated to the referee it had "somehow" morphed into saying that Galindez was good and the fight could go on.

    By the way, Galindez fought unaware that the very same day his intimate friend Ringo Bonavena had been murdered in US. Galindez’s management kept the news hidden form him, thus Galindez only knew the truth once the fight was over.
     
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