Crawford p4p number 1

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  1. miniq

    miniq AJ IS A BODYBUILDING BUM Full Member

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    Crawford is ugly and sucks

    But if 50 year old Floyd toyed with the ginger midget it's possible Crawfish will also...even Khan had success.
     
  2. Serge

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    He's rarely been the smaller man

    Was was gigantic for 135

    Huge for 140

    Very big at 147 and 154

    So much so he weighed more than his career 154 opponent did despite it being his 4th weight class and debut at the weight

    He weighed 2 ounces less than career 160 GGG's average fight night weight (but he a lightweight tho)

    Clenelo comes in about 178-180

    Crawford weighed 2oz under 170 for his debut at 154, was walking around at a super lean 177lbs seven and a half years ago, is 186 now and will be coming into the ring bare minimum of 175 if not more so there it's not this David vs Goliath scenario at all, far from it and Crawford has a much longer reach than Clenelo

    Has never been at a reach disadvantage in any of his world title fights

    Has barely fought any legit punchers, especially ones his size,

    And it has been proven many times that Clenelo even back in the midst of his prime cannot deal with a certain style to save his life.

    Not to mention Clenelo hasn't stopped anyone for four years and is not near the force he was in his prime

    And it will be in Crawford's home country, his 41st fight out of 42

    In other words the complete antithesis of what actual giant slayer Usyk is doing and has been doing routinely. Dubois in the UK is a much more risky fight for Usyk than Clenelo is for Crawford. Yeah I said it

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    People need to stop pretending that Crawford was ever a natural 135 or 140 pounder. Even back then he was always a 147 pounder and Clenelo has come up from 147 himself.

    Oh but Clenelo was very young then and was still growing.

    Newsflash most fighters who turn pro in the teens or at like 20 still are.

    As I've said before, if Loma turned pro in his teens like so many of his fellow greats did he would be bare minimum a six weight champ and if he turned pro at the same age Manny did he would gone from minimum weight to lightweight. But everyone plays dumb and ignores this and the fact that these giants he's facing at 135 are fighting in the 1st division after turning pro in their teens, a division which is his 3rd and would be, as said, at least his 6th if he turned pro at the same age. But he a hype job tho
     
  3. MarkusFlorez99

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    Yes if he beats Canelo he's pfp#1.

    It's a tall task not only due to Canelos power durability, experience, but his paid off judges as well and Crawford is 38. If Bud beats Canelo he has to dominate him

    Don't let these people sway you. There are several people here who legitimately think Inoue beating bum Tank is a better pfp win. This is how delusional boxing forum 24 is and im not even a fan
     
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  4. Scotty Cork

    Scotty Cork Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Probably the best warrior the sport has ever seen.
     
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  5. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Someone would be a moron or biased if you don't rate bud beating canelo at 168. Canelo has beaten some real guys at the weight and still went 12 rounds with LHW king Bivol, though outclassed and outsized

    Crawford is a former lw for crying out loud. It would be an astounding achievement to capture 4 titles at 168. Canelo is slipping, but still a better fighter p4p than Aj or Fury, like WAY better. Just compare their resumes

    Crawford will 100% be number 1 p4p and every major outlet will put him there if he wins, as like you say, he will be extremely up against it with judging etc
     
  6. fistsof steel

    fistsof steel Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Huge Effort to go up in weight this much and if He is succesful definitely P4P Even if he loses for stepping up is an incredible effort and He will be in the list of ATGs I think.!!!
     
  7. JusABoxinFan

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    Before reading the responses in this thread, I want to point out I totally agree with you on all points. It's not the most popular opinion, as you pointed out, but it's the most logical.

    Crawford has been the 1st or the 1st in a long time, to do a lot of the things that everyone is shooting to do today in the sport and yet every Man Fan disguised as a Boxing Fan will find a million reasons to discredit his accomplishments, but give ultimate kudos to another fighter who eventually does the same and/or is trying to.

    His victory over Julius Indongo in 2017 crowned him as the 1st Undisputed in over a decade. Then we saw every elite fighter shooting for the same status. Crawford then aims at doing it in a 2nd division and does it vs a man he's been calling out for 5 years (Errol Spence Jr.). After the accomplishment he's met with ever excuse as to why Crawford seemed to do it easily. As soon as the dust settled we saw 3 other fighters go and reach the same milestone (Inoue, Usyk, & now Canelo). Crawford is making great accomplishments become the norm.

    I'm excited to see this fight in September for the sake of seeing IQ being displayed at it's finest for both fighters. People are quick to question Crawford's power because he came from a smaller division, but I'm one who understands that quickness beats speed and timing is power. Crawford has showcased himself to be a master at those. On top of that he is strong as an ox. We've seen Canelo struggle with fighters who refused to stand in front of him. Even this last fight, Scull literally put on his skates out the gate and Canelo could never gain control of the action like he wanted. He got the win off the fact Scull forgot that he has gloves on as well and he should use them. If we look at Crawford's fights, there isn't a style that we've seen that kept him from gaining control of the action eventually. Even his last fight vs Madrimov in which people are trying their hardest to suggest it was closer than what it was, Crawford had to deal with the awkwardness of Madrimov's feints, but we saw Crawford still get to the point that Madrimov's face was getting dismantled when he eventually attempted to exchange.

    Crawford beating Canelo easily puts him as the #1 p4p and an argument for being one of the greatest to lace them up.
     
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  8. ellerbe

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    Agreed, but I doubt he wins. Too big of a jump, he arguably lost of Madrimov.
     
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  9. AdamT

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    Maybe, but canelo isn't quite at his prime either?

    It's a tough ask but not impossible
    Obviously canelo is a heavy favourite. He is very strong at 168
     
  10. JusABoxinFan

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    Canelo struggled with a couple fighters smaller than Crawford. It's logical to suggest that Crawford has an chance and/or will beat Canelo who is as flat foot as they come and shown himself to be uncomfortable dealing with slick styled fighters.

    I highly doubt Canelo is going to be on vacation in the ring in September vs Crawford. But we can always swing back to this conversation the Sunday after the fight.
     
  11. ellerbe

    ellerbe Loyal Member Full Member

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    Canelo is shot, but going up to 168 is too much. The Canelo who fought Saunders would kill Bud
     
  12. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Couldn't agree more
    If someone wants to put him in goat category, I wouldn't argue too hard against it.

    But has flown under the radar. I think he isn't getting usyk love, because maybe other than spence he hasn't had the marquee dance partner in recent years. But that changes now

    If he beats canelo? He's the best of his era. Inoue may still have a a chance to overtake him, bur he's in pole position

    Isn't he already a 4 weight champ and undisputed in 2? This would be his third undisputed win against a fellow undisputed champ and multiple title holder
     
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  13. JusABoxinFan

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    Still waiting on the breakdown how what exactly Madrimov did to "arguably" beat Crawford from any of you Madrimov supporters.

    Never seen a man get so much love for "pump faking" for 6 rounds......lol. A man who never had any control of the action throughout the entire fight, but he arguably beat Crawford?..........Please enlighten me on what I'm missing.
     
  14. JusABoxinFan

    JusABoxinFan Active Member Full Member

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    Exactly.

    And people are already putting in place the excuse to use when he gets his hand raised. "Canelo is shot".........okay...... Yet, they give Floyd ultimate praise for beating Sugar Shane & Oscar. Give Canelo ultimate praise for beating Kovalev. Gave Tank Davis a holiday for beating a one legged Gamboa......

    Crawford doesn't get the love for beating champions while they are undefeated. They say the fighter wasn't much of a challenge in the first place. Then when he beats an experienced fighter, they were a shell of themselves. He called for the Spence fight for half a decade. Every excuse came as to why the fight couldn't be made. After Spence's car accident and surgery all the way up to the weigh in, his supports claimed Spence was super human..... 48 hours later, some fake report from a supposed doctor who never met Spence claim he had all these issues that kept him from being great.
     
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  15. AdamT

    AdamT Boxing Addict banned Full Member

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    Thankfully Bud is not a little kid, so that excuse will not slide. I see the reach excuse is already being used

    Mike tyson beat heavyweights with a smaller reach than usyk, while being short, does that make him goat?

    I don't care if anyone has usyk, or inoue as the best. Just give Crawford credit if he beats canelo, like he deserves. It's a disgrace how under the radar he goes on here, despite being a dominant fighter for years. He has a fantastic record
     
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