Naoya Inoue vs. Ramon Cardenas & Rafael Espinoza Zepeda vs. Edward Vazquez - Round by Round.

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  1. Grinder

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    Tell me who is better than Inoue p4p.
     
  2. Grinder

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    Tank fights guys coming from 1 or 2 weight divisions below and struggles, while Inoue fights much naturally bigger fighters. Inoue has already KTFO of anyone close to whom Tank fights. If Tank fights Teo at 140 that might be close to equivalent, but he can't even fight Shakur.
     
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  3. Grinder

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    Don't be disappointed with bravery mate. The equivalent would be Canelo taking on Beterbiev prime and swinging for the fences but having the confidence that he can overcome anything that lands and win the fight. That is a great thing about the monster, he comes to bang against much bigger fighters and risks failure. Canelo fights Jaime Mungia et al and got his ears boxed off by Lara. But he us a ginger Mexican so he is like Chucky from Child's play.
     
  4. Grinder

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    Bam is fighting midgets, Inoue is fighting giants. If Inoue fought Bam and KTFO him in one round everyone would be saying how big Inoue is, but that is basically the size of guys The Monster is fighting. They should fight now while there is an opportunity, but Bam's balls are definitely 10% the size of Inoue's.
     
  5. Grinder

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    Loma's two losses at 135 against much bigger overblown 135ers who he was dominating throughout the championship rounds. Believe what you want, but it is the same as thinking USA did the right thing killing Vietnamese in the 1960s, it is just wrong. Loma clearly beat Haney and was the only one to dominate rounds against Teo.
     
  6. Grinder

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    Your consistency in quality of post remains. YDKSAB.
     
  7. Grinder

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    Inoue just fought the equivalent of Beterbiev for Canelo, and he fought aggressively. Canelo won't even fight Benevidez, and his last 5 fights are Scull, Berlanga, Mungia, Charlo, Ryder. That is a complete joke, yet the brown tongues keep lapping away.

    Inoue is many levels above Canelo.
     
  8. BoyBato

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    Eh no
     
  9. bandeedo

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    bam is going to beat inoue. and you, along with most everyone else, will say inoue is past prime, and he would have smashed bam in his prime.
     
  10. Flo_Raiden

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    Inoue vs Bam seems inevitable, especially since Inoue doesn't seem to be in a rush to move up to 126 yet. Would like to see that happen next year and it would be a beautiful stylistic match up. Bam is supremely gifted but I'm still not convinced that he'd be able to beat Inoue. Every fighter Inoue has fought theyl eventually succumbed to his power and I don't think Bam would be able to take that kind of power for long. Inoue is especially devastating against southpaws.

    Awesome fight but I wouldn't be surprised if it ends up one sided in Inoue's favor. Nakatani is a far bigger threat than Bam IMO.
     
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    i have no problem with anyone thinking inoue would be too much for bam. inoue is a special fighter. but studying both, i think bam can neutralize a lot of inoues offense, with his defence. and bam is gifted at seeing angles other punchers dont see, hes gonna find the holes when inoue isnt expecting them.
    whether bam can stop inoue is another story. i would have to see how he looks at 118 first. if bam isnt fighting choco after his next fight, i would like to see him challenge nakatani. then he can challenge inoue right off, or beat up on his brother first.
    i really do think bam is that good. im just not sure how heavy he can get naturally, where his genetics dont take anything from him when adding weight.
    Look at this kids legs. if he doesnt want to give you the range, you arent finding it. so far rungvisai was the only guy to make him think safety first, but he has it in the toolbox.
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  12. slash

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    It was Quatro de Mayo, after all.
     
  13. Badbot

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    Rodriguez is still at 115, it will take years for him to move to 122 and by that time Inoue will likely be past his best.

    Let´s say Rodriguez moves to 118 in 2026, and to 122 in 2027 - Inoue will likely be 34 by then. And honestly, thats a best case scenario.
    Also, it´s possible that Inoue ends up moving to 126, will Rodriguez really follow suit? I doubt it.
     
  14. Flo_Raiden

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    Inoue's defense isn't all that bad himself once he starts finding his distance and rhythm. The thing that makes Inoue the most dangerous isn't his power but his ability to eventually figure out his opponents style and then slowly breaking them down in the late rounds and still ending it emphatically. Bam has good defense but I wouldn't say it's impenetrable. Gallo was able to put him down good with a right hand, something that Inoue is fully capable of doing as well. With southpaws Inoue knows how to either outbox them or track them down. I can't see Bam being able to evade Inoue's body shots or his right hand counters for long. Bam has a lot in the toolbox but Inoue just has a bit more IMO.
     
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  15. bandeedo

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    i dont think inoue is more skilled. i think he has more power, but isnt as complete as bam. i think bam transitions much better between offence and defense. he uses defense to position himself for the offense. he also has a tighter guard than inoue, he seldom lets his defensive hand stray far from his chin, even when punching. the only thing i think inoue has over bam is power and possibly chin. although bams chin hasnt really been put to a serious test. unless inoue can diminish bam early in the fight, i think bam outboxes him.