You are not p4p #1 if you get dropped and almost stopped by an Uber driver

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  1. The Cryptkeeper

    The Cryptkeeper Well-Known Member Full Member

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    “Almost stopped.”

    Hahahaha, seriously?
     
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  2. MidniteProwler

    MidniteProwler Fab 4. Mayor of Aussie Boxing Full Member

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    Inoue has the usual suspects raging.
     
  3. tarrant45

    tarrant45 Active Member Full Member

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    I'm not a huge Inoue fan but he recovered like a p4p fighter. Anyone can get dropped by anyone in boxing, that criticism is way overrated these days.
     
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  4. Young Terror

    Young Terror ★ Griselda ★ Full Member

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    If he was American and Tony Willis was the ref that would've been ruled a slip.
     
  5. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Because they're casuals who don't pay as much attention to the sport as I do. Didn't catch me criticizing Cardenas as an opponent, did you? There's a reason why I've called as many upsets as I have, when it involves complete unknowns, like with Murtazaliev recently. Frequently there's countless intangibles an unheralded fighter possesses that glib, assumptive and reflexive oddsmakers are unable to pick up on. But people with a keen eye can spot stylistic issues that fighters like that present from a mile away.
     
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  6. UnleashtheFURY

    UnleashtheFURY D'oh! Full Member

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    He's not p4p #1 Usyk is.
     
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  7. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    We’re now in an era of boxing where people are criticizing fighters simply for getting knocked down. Never mind the fact that Inoue not only recovered quickly but arguably dominated most of the fight after that round. You seriously can’t make this stuff up :facepalm:

    Whereas in the past we’ve had plenty of ATGs who have been knocked down or even knocked out against subpar opponents even in their primes. People really need to get a grip and realize that in boxing anything can happen unexpectedly. That’s part of the game. And clearly Cardenas was much better than most gave him credit.
     
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  8. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Prime Roy Jones Jr got knocked down by Lou Del Valle, whom Jones wasnt able to stop. That must mean he sucked.
     
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  9. CST80

    CST80 De Omnibus Dubitandum Staff Member

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    Well... except for that one time when the ropes held him up after he got clipped by Cotto's fat older brother.
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  10. rolzone

    rolzone Member Full Member

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    Inoue is an elite fighter. Elite fighters make mistakes. He got up and knocked his man out
     
  11. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Cardenas was rated in the top ten by the Ring. It's more like being dropped by Ajagba
     
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  12. lobk

    lobk Original ESB Member Full Member

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    What the thread starter never took into account is the moving up in weight. Facing guys bigger and stronger.
     
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  13. Slyk

    Slyk Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I'm not criticizing Inoue for getting knocked down. Not at all. All great fighters get knocked down. One could go so far as to say that if you haven't ever been knocked down, you're not a great fighter.

    That said, when a large amount of folks are proclaiming you to be P4P#1 aka THE BEST FIGHTER IN THE SPORT, you can't get heavily knocked down by a total unknown 100-1 underdog, no matter how underrated that fighter may be, and retain such a lofty distinction. For me, Inoue was never p4p#1 - it's clearly Usyk. That said, there are still a large amount of folks who believe that he is, and they are wrong.
     
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  14. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Getting knocked down by a heavy underdog doesn’t automatically invalidate his P4P standing, #1 or not. He got dropped, dusted it off, and finished the fight strong. Nobody cares about the fact that he got dropped by someone who wasn’t known. What really mattered was how he responded and still fought like a true professional afterwards. Usyk is still #1 in my opinion but I’m totally fine with people ranking Inoue as the top P4P fighter.
     
  15. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    These aren't knock downs, he fell down because they pushed him.