Is Wladimir Klitschko the only boxer in history that can realistically beat Usyk

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  1. Babality

    Babality KTFO!!!!!!! Full Member

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    I don't think it was low. But I'm not Usyk and I don't know what he felt. This dude makes some good points. But when he wants to pass his opinion as fact, that's where he failed. You have no real way of knowing. As Usyk said, it's his opinion.

    On another note, imagine this dude approaching a prime Tyson like that. XD. Would love to have seen that.
     
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  2. OddR

    OddR Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If he fought everyone enough times it is likely Uysk would take losses to the greats but then again so could like everyone and that includes Ali who most see as the H2H GOAT as well as the overall GOAT.

    There's no perfect fighter..
     
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  3. Anton Frank

    Anton Frank New Member Full Member

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    Anyone can look good fighting nobodies. Vitali beat noone great. His greatness is based of losing to a retiring Lewis.
     
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  4. Anton Frank

    Anton Frank New Member Full Member

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    Neither Klitschko would beat him. Lewis and Tyson definitely beat him.
    Otherwise many others have a chance.. Ali, Louis, Holmes, Marciano, Frazier.
     
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  5. catchwtboxing

    catchwtboxing Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    You sure come up with some hot takes!

    The answer is no. Usyk would be a long night for anyone, but there are other great heavies too. I would see him having great series with Tyson, Ali, Frazier, Holy, Lewis...

    Wlad to me is just outside of top ten.
     
  6. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Usyk is becoming wildly overrated,
     
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  7. MaccaveliMacc

    MaccaveliMacc Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Wlad was basically a carbon copy of Lewis with a better jab, harder punch and better clinching game. Why do you think Lewis definitely beats Usyk but Wlad doesn't?
     
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  8. BubblesUK

    BubblesUK Doesn't buy hypejobs Full Member

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    It's entirely possible.

    On the other hand, it's possible Usyk prepares well for it and evades and/or counters him..

    I wouldn't say Fury out-cuddled the best Wlad, but Usyks ability to not get too tied up with Fury suggests he'd have had some chance of nullifying that tactic.

    Wlad did have a lot more power than Fury, so maybe he has his way another way... Who knows... But I bet it'd have been a heck of a fight!
     
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  9. ChiefGego

    ChiefGego Active Member Full Member

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    I thought Usyk busted Wlad up in sparring many years ago?
     
  10. ChiefGego

    ChiefGego Active Member Full Member

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    Yeah just steamrolling SHW "elites" at age 36+ as a former Cruiser isn't hypeworthy.
     
  11. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    That goon is SUCH an idiot. :lol::lol:

    “Pull your eyes out of your head”

    Hahahaha! I’d LOVE for him to try that on the right person in the right place :) And then videos like that can be used to describe the type of character he was during the case! Evidence is always good.

    But even in a street fight Usyk would absolutely beat the **** out of him or choke him out. I believe Usyk, like Loma, was brought up with a good amount of Judo training too.

    Classless POS that dork is. And that’s dubois coach charles’ son? Yeah… the Apple didn’t fall to far from the tree did it! lol
     
  12. CooperKupp

    CooperKupp “B.. but they all playin NBA basketball again!” Full Member

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    Lol :lol:

    The reason he says that is as clear as day but not even worth mentioning. Lol :lol: Bottomline though is Wlad did fight a number of VERY good southpaws and absolutely dominated all but ONE. How many elite level southpaws did lewis fight again??? ;) Yeah.. exactly. Wlad had MUCH faster hands than lewis did too!

    Also lewis didn’t have the foot speed Wlad had to keep up with Usyk’s constant movement. Even Fury who is very fluid and quick for a guy his size had trouble with Usyk’s movement.

    Prime Wladimir would DEFINITELY pose a very legit threat to Usyk!
     
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  13. The Real Lance

    The Real Lance Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    :lol: That's not what that means. Southpaw HW's back in the day were almost non-existent. There's a reason Moorer was the first with that distinction.
     
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  14. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Not quite. Wlad might be the best ever to control range with the jab and feet besides Holmes. But he has 0 inside offense and thats big. I can't call Wlad a complete fighter.
     
  15. Anton Frank

    Anton Frank New Member Full Member

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    Yeah and Tyrell Biggs was a copy of Ali, and Dubois is a copy of Tyson. Similar style doesn't mean similar level. Did either Klitschko ever destroy a big man the way Lewis destroyed Ruddock, Golota, Grant..?
     
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