Jersey Joe Walcott Vs Joe Frazier Fantasy Fight?

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  1. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    If Walcott managed to drop Frazier early (as he did Marciano and Louis), Does Joe rec recover and become more dangerous?
    Or does JJ capaltize and score an upset early KO?
    Has Walcott the strength and stamina to go the distance if need be, with a smoking bull like Joe?
    Does this fight see 15 rounds or does it definitely end in a KO/stoppage?

    Personally I think Walcott has the potential to give Joe an absolute nightmare, but not sure he can get a win.
    But definitely he had the sneakiness and power to Hurt Frazier early.
     
  2. nyterpfan

    nyterpfan Member Full Member

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    Walcott would definitely give Frazier fits--and Joe would take his share of punishment. But if we're talking FOTC level Frazier I think he wins on a late round KO similar to Marciano in 1952.
     
  3. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Walcott wasn’t vulnerable to left hooks, not offensive ones anyway, yes he got dropped by Ezzard Charles with one, but that was a counter, Charles was moving away and Walcott overcommitted and left himself wide open, when someone committed to the left hook, he was able to step back and keep that right hand tight, it was the right hand he was susceptible to, because he like to dip to his right or jab whilst leaning to the right and counter with a right hand when the opponents looked like they were going to commit, Marciano read this and threw jab because he knew Walcott was going to slip to his right and attempt a right hand counter, so Marciano threw that jab and then timed Walcott’s counter right by leaning just enough to his left as he threw the right as to beat Walcott to the punch, also Marciano knowing what Walcott was going to do and plan accordingly also helped to beat him to the punch, the point is that Walcott couldbe times with the right, but wasn’t open to left hooks, people often think that Frazier, because he had similar strengths to Marciano in terms of his stamina and good power, that it’d be the same, but they’re not looking at the technical components that led to Marciano knocking him out, Frazier is not knocking Walcott out with a right hand, and Walcott had a good defence against lefthooks, also, if you land 1 on Walcott, it’s gonna be very hard to get combinations off because of how slippery he was, he’d be slippery, and when Frazier got close, Walcott could tie him up and for my money, he’s stronger than Frazier, yes he was lighter, but he wasn’tmuch lighter and Walcott was shredded and Frazier was relatively soft.
    Walcott could time Frazier with the check left hook asFrazier commits to the lead left hook, and Walcott could follow up with the uppercut as Frazier rolls, Walcott hadvery good timing and uppercuts which would make it dangerous for Frazier, Frazier smoking may get himself smoked here, he wasn’t the most difficult to hit and Walcott was also very sneaky and great at walking you onto punches, which would certainly be possible to do against Frazier.
     
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  4. AntonioMartin1

    AntonioMartin1 Jeanette Full Member

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    I see this playing like Marciano !
     
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  5. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    I favor Frazier, but Walcott is a challenging opponent. Walcott hit hard enough to hurt Frazier and this scrap could go on for a while.

    Walcott didn't hit as hard as Foreman, so he isn't blasting Frazier out. Walcott was more of a Bonavena type puncher when it comes to power.
     
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  6. mr. magoo

    mr. magoo VIP Member Full Member

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    I agree with the OP. Frazier should win but if Walcott is in top form he could give Frazier a decent fight
     
  7. Journeyman92

    Journeyman92 Bob N Weave Full Member

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    Marciano did everything better then Frazier expect be heavier lol I’d favour Walcott not majorly but he’d be who I’d bet the barn on at gun point he could really punch. I think he’d walk Frazier into a right hand, Frazier didn’t shift his weight he wasn’t a puncher like Marciano he’d get wide with it and I think Walcott would roll his and return fire with so many counter hooks it’d spin his head.
     
  8. Fergy

    Fergy Walking Dead Full Member

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    If anyone could get those hard, counter hooks in, it's Jersey Joe.
    Those shots he dropped Louis, Charles and Marciano are absolutely perfect.
     
  9. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    I have said before, peak Jersey Joe is a tough night at the office for anyone.
     
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  10. Reinhardt

    Reinhardt Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    The only fantasy here is picking Walcott to win
     
  11. PRW94

    PRW94 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Who’s spoken the words, “Walcott will win?” He won’t. But I will say again, at his best he was a tough night at the office for anyone and Frazier wouldn’t simply overwhelm him. He was better than Joe Bugner who Frazier couldn’t knock out.
     
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  12. McGrain

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    Prime Joe Frazier isn't going to get out-boxed. You've got to stop him. Fortunately he's stoppable. But I don't think Walcott would stop him.
     
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  13. InMemoryofJakeLamotta

    InMemoryofJakeLamotta I have defeated the great Seamus Full Member

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    Even Anthony Joshua???
     
  14. he grant

    he grant Historian/Film Maker

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    Frazier
     
  15. Shay Sonya

    Shay Sonya The REAL Wonder Woman! Full Member

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    I am picking Prime Joe Frazier to win, probably by late round stoppage, but it would not shock me if Prime Jersey Joe Walcott found a way to make it to the final bell.