Could anyone out slug young Foreman?

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  1. Pugguy

    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Blowing up again JM, so high strung and still trying to project your own disposition onto others? :lol:

    Cold facts are a real killer, aren’t they?

    When they don’t suit and cannot be refuted, they automatically and conveniently become a wall of “mumbo jumbo”. Shameless deflection.

    After completely ignoring the numerous facts I just put to you….you “invite” me…..? Good one. :lol:

    Frazier’s left hook was “proper” enough to yield all the damage that it did.

    The left hook that floored Ali was the poster shot for a left hook.

    I’ve not read anyone write that Frazier’s signature punch was his “improper” left hook.

    So, if “you”. don’t think Joe threw it “properly”….what exactly is your end point to that “observation”?

    Yes, please do “amuse” me by actually remaining on point and not getting so strung out as you so often do. :D
     
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    Pugguy Ingo, The Thinking Man’s GOAT Full Member

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    Phew! I’m glad you provided those stats JT. I was almost coming around to the idea that Frazier had no punch while thinking, how did I get that so wrong for all these years? :D

    haNZAgod is among my favourite uploaders. There’s some real talent and great artistc eyes out there for putting together fantastic compilations. Many also have a good ear/sense for appropriate background music.
     
  3. JohnThomas1

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    He can punch alright. His hook was often labeled "powerful", "lethal", "ferocious". It's the most famous left hook in history, and rightly so. There were some that could throw it harder as a single punch but Frazier's hook was whipped thru hard every time he threw it. all that concussive power virtually every time it was coming.

    He's such a great uploader. He posted in here just days ago. Totally agree nothing makes a highlights clip more potent than perfectly chosen music. Rez who used to post here was very good in his musical choices too.
     
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  4. Journeyman92

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    More Mumbai jumbo… So you can’t tell me why his hook was thrown properly or improperly? That’s what I’m reading here with the reason being Pug YDKSAB and couldn’t break it down if you wanted lol nice try doe, stick to your magazines.
     
  5. Journeyman92

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    Yeah nah it wasn’t thrown properly lol it was hard doe make no mistake but a tool of attrition. it’s in writing, it’s in reality, it’s on film to see but you just don’t know s*** about boxing Frazier threw his hook improperly that’s a fact.
     
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    Weren't you done chatting and whining i was "insulting" you? Are you looking to incite? If i reply am i going to get reported again? LOL

    You've been beaten from pillar to post in all this. If you think waffling on about foot position, pivot, transfer, the kinetic chain, a book quote or anything else is going to make you look like a boxing genius you need to get a good dose of reality.

    Telling a guy like Pugs that he DKAB (note i left the S out because that's a bannable offense, but don't worry I'm not king dobber ;)) is the epitome of having no idea. You, in the words of the immortal Larry Holmes, "couldn't carry his jockstrap".

    Go back to your candlelit dinner for two mate, it's safe territory lol

    I'm past words with you. There was a reason i never engage you.
     
  8. Journeyman92

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    Blah blah blah (oh ow don’t make me report you :oops: ) here read and learn JT there is no fat on anything in that thread, it’s day 1 stuff shifting your weight properly is bedrock level and for you to call it “kinetic chain waffling” is really just exposing yourself here lol because… YDKSAB https://www.boxingforum24.com/threads/how-to-use-the-jab.722109/
     
  9. JohnThomas1

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    Again? If only Eddie Futch was here to read it.
     
  10. Journeyman92

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    :D He’d probably tell you to take note? JT my pal… quoting Joe Frazier’s own book and explaining the basic weight shifts are not “waffling” its fundamental and not rocket science would you like me to teach you? Consider it an olive branch.
     
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    :lol:
     
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    TKO17
     
  14. Pugguy

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    End point? Of course, you didn’t have one. :rolleyes:

    What does a city in India have to do with anything? My “Wall of Voodoo” clearly has you bamboozled. :lol:

    Wow, you really have crashed and burned.

    Hope you remembered to hit the eject button before your aircraft hit ground. :cool:
     
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  15. JohnThomas1

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    I tell you what. Someone has to knock you clean off your high horse and I've got a lot of time on my hands at the moment. I'll take one for the team and educate you.

    You go thru your pet thread and cut and paste the meat of why Frazier's left hook is thrown, and i quote, improperly. Pinpoint this bedrock weight transfer thing you seem to be implying. I'll answer it in kind in the next 24hrs. You can then admit your follies and lack of knowledge.

    @Pugguy - Leave this one with me.

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