Inoue becomes undisputed at 126 and 135, does he rank about Usyk ?

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  1. Ice8Cold

    Ice8Cold Still raging that we didnt see Bowe V Lewis Full Member

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    Depends on who Inoue actually beats.

    If its actually a strong champion then fair enough, but if its a weak champion then it hurts his case a bit.
     
  2. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    Totally irrelevant point if you actually consider what i said and what undisputed means.
     
  3. TNSNO1878

    TNSNO1878 New Member Full Member

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    Yes, but I can't see it. The big names at 126 beat him pretty comfortably. He's hit his weight ceiling, I think. If Cardenas can drop him, I think Espinoza switches his lights out. Nick Ball probably throws him all around the ring to win a disputed decision because of his size. P4P, he's miles ahead of both, but he's just ventured too far now.
     
  4. Braindamage

    Braindamage Baby Face Beast Full Member

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    I posted awhile back that Inoue could be a 6 division champ when it's all said and done. Being undisputed in 3 or 4 of those division is some Mount Rushmore type ****.
     
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  5. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    Not at all. You said Inoue wouldn't be greater and pointed out that pac was lineal in some weight classes. Yeah, against David Diaz. Undisputed means a lot more than lineal to me.

    Pac has a great resume, but he just wasn't able to go undefeated clearing divisions like Inoue can. If Inoue did this in 4 divisions to become a 6 div champ 4 division undisputed and didn't take losses during he'd be over pac for me.
     
  6. lufcrazy

    lufcrazy requiescat in pace Full Member

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    No again you're still wrong. Read my original post and reply to that instead of putting words in my mouth please.
     
  7. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    He's above Usyk because he often kisses the ground and he's not an Olympic gold medalist and never won amateur world championships?
     
  8. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    It's like pointing out with Usyk he has multiple fights where an opponent won 5 rounds but Inoue has none. Or that Usyk let's his opponents go the distance while Inoue finishes them off
     
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  9. OldSchoolBoxing

    OldSchoolBoxing Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Because Usyk doesn't fight bums unlike Inoue. Inoue competes in a weight class which nobody cares and thus there aren't quality opposition.
     
  10. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    If Loma had turned pro at the same age as Inoue, was cutting and rehydrating as much weight as him, and the other champs at 126 and 130 didn't duck him like he had leprosy he could've achieved something similar, and of course not getting robbed vs Haney at 135 of course.

    If Loma turned pro at 19 at a much lower weight than he did at at 25-26 I believe would've achieved something similar. Don't believe me? Of course you don't. He's never lost to a smaller fighter in his life and the fact he was able to win 3 of the 4 belts at 135 individually on the road vs fighters who were way bigger, heavier and longer than him and then should've won them all at 35 y/o off a 20lb heavier, just under 6'' longer reach gigantic weight bully like Haney in Haney's backyard, with a home ref and three home judges and a 36 hour weigh in says it all but he a ''hype job'' doe

    FTR, Twink weighs about 10lbs more than Inoue with an identical reach and whilst Inoue is generally fighting bigger guys at 122 the size disparity between him and them is barely noticeable most of the time. Now compare that to Loma vs his opponents at 135. Exactly. The size disparity is absolutely huge and glaring.
     
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  11. Ted Spoon

    Ted Spoon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Right. This points needs emphasising. While Manny's success from fly to welter was awesome he wasn't cleaning out divisions. If Inoue beats MJ then that's basically another division cleared.

    There are different routes to greatness.
     
  12. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I'd be saying steady on!

    Inoue is unlikely to even fight at 130 or 135 let alone win a title there, let alone be Undisputed!

    As others have said, it's hard to see him doing much past 126, and that may even be a bridge too far.

    Inoue would be have a real good argument to overtaking Usyk merely by going to 126 and winning a belt, anything beyond that just strengthens his case.
     
  13. PIPO23

    PIPO23 Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    He has to beat some great fighters.Being undisputed against Jaime Butter, Paul Mcdonell, Jason Baloney doesn’t cut it.Bar set too low for this kid.
     
  14. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    If he does that he ranks above anyone in history with the only debate being Terence Crawford if Terence Crawford beats Canelo
     
  15. Cojimar 1946

    Cojimar 1946 Well-Known Member Full Member

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    People ignoring weight classes has nothing to do with talent. Fury arguably lost to a guy making his pro debut and he's supposedly a good win for Usyk

    Cruiserweight is widely ignored by the public anyway
     
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