More Fighters Should Counter Hooks Like SRR

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  1. since93sports

    since93sports Since93Sports Full Member

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    Why dont more fighters counters hooks this way? Cardenas countered Inoue in a similar manner and put him down last weekend

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  2. Flo_Raiden

    Flo_Raiden Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Counter left hook is Nonito Donaire's greatest weapon. Also broke Inoue's orbital bone with it as well.

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  3. since93sports

    since93sports Since93Sports Full Member

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    Damn he was a monster too

     
  4. George Crowcroft

    George Crowcroft He Who Saw The Deep Full Member

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    I think Cardenas looked very much like Pep. That shift into southpaw as he moved away before reversing the momentum and throwing the left hand was something Pep did all the time.
     
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  5. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

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    Isn't it ironic that Pep's lack of spark em power and superb movement and defence makes a lot of people gloss over how good his actual punching technique, flair and combinations were?

    He does some brilliant work off the pivots and level changes.

    Back to OP, more people don't counter the hook like SRR cos SRR is SRR - insanely gifted and with a higher IQ than he's probably credited with.
     
  6. Saintpat

    Saintpat Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Also, ducking inside a hook can lead to head butts. That’s pretty much what Evander did with Tyson, holding his ground and dipping his head while Mike came forward on a straight line with his head popped up like a submarine telescope.

    Mike was used to opponents pulling back — and into the arc of the power punch — when he came forward like that. His technique, by this point at least and specific to this tactic, was fundamentally flawed.
     
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  7. JunlongXiFan

    JunlongXiFan 45-6 in Kirks Chmpionshp Boxing Predictions 2022 Full Member

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    You sure don't see stuff like that in boxing much anymore, that's for sure. That's probably the most telegraphed hook I've ever seen. Like compare how Inoue throws his to this guy

    Anyway, if you ever want to see Robinson losing to a hook, just put on him vs LaMotta. He takes the same punch over and over, can't figure out how to avoid it. Inoue on the other hand doesn't take that counter flush again. He's a really high IQ fighter

    Ashita no Joe: "Only a second rate boxer gets hit by the same punch twice"
     
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  8. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    More like him vs Basilio.
     
  9. META5

    META5 Active Member Full Member

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    100%.

    Evan did what you're supposed to do, shelled up, tucked his chin and held his ground so it was actually Mike charging in that led to the headbutts. However, once Evan realised the effectiveness of his head positioning, I think he started pushing his head forward, as opposed to standing his ground and tucking chin.

    One thing I know is the best boxers will break the rules/put themselves in vulnerable positions to defy the textbook and exploit their opponent not being prepared for the shots available to them. SRR, Pep, Ali, RJJ, Sweet Pea, Floyd, Toney, Charles, Moore, Burley - these kinda fighters knew the game and exploited it to their benefit.
     
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  10. Pat M

    Pat M Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Leading with a hook is risky. Turpin was too far away to hook which made him lunge. If the hook is thrown at close range there won't be much, if any room to get inside of it. Turpin made the mistakes of lunging, not keeping his feet under him, and SRR made him pay. It would be less risky if Turpin had jabbed to close the distance, then hooked it he had the opening.
     
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