Usyk vs Fury/Joshua trilogy

Crazy that Usyk will have soon fought Fury twice AJ twice and Dubious twice.
The man is a legend.

 

Thats exactly the point . Parker wants to fight usyk , kabayel wants to fight usyk , the fans want to see this fights , massive money would be on both fights . Go out and beat both if you are so great .

Nobody wants to see usyk fighting a guy who was already beaten

 

If Usyk beats Dubois I would like to see him against Kabayel (it would be nice to have Parker - Kabayel on July 19th), Parker also deserves a title shot. We have already seen Usyk against AJ and Fury. However I am convinced that Fury - Joshua will be announced soon

 

Usyk has said he didn’t want any rematches, but contractual obligations and Dubois spanking AJ have lead to him fighting three of them. If he checks out with a trilogy fight with either of AJ or Fury it’ll be nothing more than making the most money (I don’t blame him) but from an integrity point of view I hope he’ll fight Parker

 

Parker was beaten, twice.

 

If Usyk chooses that, then I don't blame him. But he should be stripped, considering Parker and Kabayel are his mandatories and have been for a while. His fans also can't argue he cleaned out the division if he retires without facing either one. Again, when other fighters do stuff like this they get routinely criticised.

Hell, I wouldn't even be that adverse to a third AJ / Fury bout if Usyk was simply more active throughout the year. But given he isn't, and the fact it's supposedly his last bout, then it's a bit of a farce that could stagnate the division imo.

 

I cannot remotely imagine anyone wanting to see Usyk fight Fury or Joshua again . as for his up coming fight with Dubois . I'm waiting for the odds and I may drop a wad on Dubois. Usyk has reached an age where you simply aren't as good as you were and he's not that active either.

 

Not by usyk so far

 

As of now he's shown nothing that I can see.

 

No, it is hilarious your tortured stretches of logic. Opetaia has done nothing to earn ad shot, and Kabeyal is third back in line. Not hard to understand.

 

No one gave Fury more **** for fighting Chisora, but the fighters do have optionals. Hrgovic and is not a history making fighter, and it ultimately makes no difference at all whether Fury fought him or not. Here's a fact: in fighting #1 contender Dillion Whyte, Fury fought one more #1 contender than Larry Holmes.

 

I heartily agree. I think Torrez has accomplished more than Itauma tbh.

 

Reality is there's nothing left of him to do.

Fury and AJ are/were better than Parker/Kebabyal and the others.

As for AJ, he could lose to a lot of these characters on any given night, especially these days, but can probably KO them all too. For instance he can probably KO Dubious 2/Zhang/Parker/Croatian but could also be beat by them.

Nobody else is going to give Usyk more prestige. IF Wilder was younger and it was just after Fury beat him, it would have been the third major opponent of the era, but it came too late and Wilder became shot so he'd get no credit.

People like Parker and Kebabyal have mediocre resumes and we're just scraping the barrel now in the vacuum. Since when are these great fighters? Just a recap:

Parker won the vacant title against Ruiz then lost straight away to AJ easily. Since then he did nothing until recent years when he almost lost to Chisora, got destroyed by Joyce, then beat a shot Wilder and an old man in Zhang where he still got dropped. He then beat a fat fill-in.

Kebabyal beat Chisora many years ago then did nothing until he beat a few B fighters and then an even older Zhang than Parker beat.

Usyk should just retire.

 

They are what they are but kabayel has 5 times !!! ( 25 vs 5 ) More opponents at heavy than usyk and parker has +7 times !!! more opponents ( 38 vs 5 ) .

More : usyk has just 2 guys ( aj and fury ) noteworthy at heavy .

It sounds very strange when we talk there is nothing more to do for usyk , especially when we see how he circumnavigates around mandatory defences without being stripped .

I respect usyk for beating aj and fury and would applaude if he beats parker and kabayel , but looking at the entire picture of his hw career this all is very strange at least .

 

Usyk didn't earn his shot against Joshua either. Beating a faded Chisora and Chazz Witherspoon obviously didn't make him the top contender. He got his shot due to his cruiserweight accompishments.

The guy third in line is frequently better than guys ranked above him in real life. Surely you know this. Remember when the heavily favored Tyson lost to Holyfield? Or when the heavily favored Joshua lost to Dubois?

Dubois is the only guy who I would put above Kabayel, and Usyk already beat him making it a less compelling fight. Parker simply has too many losses.