Usyk vs Fury/Joshua trilogy

Thats absolutely true . And with a legacy of witherspoon , chisora , aj and dubois he surely did not deserve a shot for undisputed .

And now , with 5 opponents on his legacy , with avoiding mandatory title defences without being stripped , he is about to get a second undisputed shot straight ahead ?

It smells very fishy .

 

No difference ? Plenty and i mean PLENTY of opposition was certainly more credible for Furys resume than the likes of an old ass Chisora who he beat twice, Ngannou, Wallin, Sefari, Pianeta. Oh yeah did I mention Ngannou was on his debut ?

You want to degrade Holmes in order to justify Furys overrated status ? Lets be realistic, Fury post Klitschko wouldn't even risk it against Mercer after he walked through Morrison. Fury was ducking and dodging claiming Usyk wasn't apart of his era before Turki flashed the 8 figures

 

Trilogies only work for rubber matches. He's 4-0 against these two. Time to move on.

 

Yeah, as I said, Fury fought one more #1 contender than Holmes. That is the truth.

And no, it makes no difference whatsoever whether Fury bet Hrgovic or not. Hrgovic is nothing at all.

You keep mentioning the mediocre fighters Fury fought and no one is arguing that point. The point is, that because he unseated Klitschko and Wilder, he is one of the two fighters who had a claim to being the best from 2015 until Usyk, and Usyk bet them both. Nothing takes that away. Certainly not any rubbish about Hrgovic.

 

But not every guy moving up from cruiser or coming from third place is better than the #1 heavyweight contender. History will remember Usyk for focusing on unifications and #1s in a way guys like Holmes never did.

 

Holmes had how many title fights compared to Fury ? against how many ranked opponents ? The numbers wash all over Fury that's a fact. That Mercer win as an 42 year old is historically greater than Wilder 1 2 or 3 just based on Mercers resume and Holmes age, with Mercer performing against Lewis who is at least 30 places above Fury on the atg rankings. The fact is the best version of Tyson Fury who fought Klitschko left after Fury destroyed his body in retirement and that was how many years ago ?

You've already admitted you'll go to asinine lengths to protect Furys legacy of ducking almost every top 10 contender by claiming Hrgovic, Zhang, Parker, Ruiz, Joyce, Kabayel, Hunter, aren't apart of his era, meanwhile he fights guys he's already beaten like Chisora (who Kabayel dominated) and an mma fighter on his debut and arguably lost that fight prior to Usyk, dropped twice with an ignored knockdown. We aren't sweeping that under the rug. Those fights would've solitified his legacy as undisputed best heavyweight prior to Usyk but he never took those fights. Fury isn't even a minor all time great, Ken Norton is ironically above him.

 

You have gone spectacularly wrong in the first line. THAT IS THE POINT.

THAT IS THE POINT.

THAT IS THE POINT.

Fury at least fought his #1 contender, which gives him the fight to have a couple of optionals, and then fought a unification bought. Holmes, and other guys like him, ever did that in all of their fights. Never.

Look, I am going to let you go. You are rambling on about guys that just don't matter. The two contenders for best guy from 2015 to Usyk were Fury and Joshua, and Usyk beat them both twice, and added Dubois, a successor, on top of that. His legacy is secure.

Hrgovic and Zhang don't matter.

 

Fury deserved couple of optionals ? Fury didn't even fight aj. Gtfo there are no excuses for an unranked Wallin and especially an old ass Francis Ngannou who has never had a professional fight beforehand. These are the lengths you will go, utter nonesense

Furys number 1 contender was Dillian Whyte who got trashed by an ancient Povetkin no ? Dillian Whyte is dozens of places below Cooney

 

Again, you're not getting it. He beat the significant fighters or his time. The fighters you are citing are nothing and nobody. Good luck to you.

 

Wilders resume isn't good enough for you to claim he beat all the significant fighters and he's too limited in reality. You keep ignoring the fact that Fury ain't the same guy post Klitschko and struggled against much lesser competition while in shape as shown against Wallin and an old ufc fighter who never boxed professionally. He was struggling with Otto even before the cut appeared.

So this notion that he was the best heavyweight in the world before Usyk isn't concrete, especially since we've proven that he hasn't touched any top 10 fighter in 7 years besides a trilogy with old Chisora, Wilder and a shot Whyte who (no suprised here) got hospitalized by a senile povetkin. Fury didn't even fight aj. Usyk has a top 10 resume, but you won't be selling me a top 5 spot when his top competitions resume doesn't quite make the mark