Fisher vs Allen Card

Absolute garbage and didn’t Hearn used to slate Warren for putting shows on at the Copper Box?

 

Hearn used to say that he was Tesco and everyone else was the corner shop. Is he even the corner shop now. For me, Matchroom and Boxxer have destroyed their businesses with women’s boxing. Fans don’t want to sit through a 20 minute slapathon that they have no interest in . It’s a momentum killer for the show and an atmosphere killer for the fans. The viewer is mugged off by the commentary team invariably telling us that we’re watching a thriller. It’s normally compared to Hagler Hearns ( Jonas v Mayer, Taylor v Serrano x 2 ). Lauren Price probably couldn’t sell out her local town hall but the BBC website asked ‘ is she the greatest Welsh boxer ever ? ‘. Not Calzaghe, not Jimmy Wilde, not Howard Winston, not Freddie Welsh…..Lauren Price. I live near her and I imagine there’s better women fighters than her outside the local pubs at last orders on a Saturday night.

 

Be real man, she'd smash any woman out at last orders very easily

 

@TBC-ASAP
It's like the championship level in football.

British title level, In fact this fight should have been for the vacant british title instead of that adeleye vs tkv rubbish.

 

With due respect, I think this is such a stretch it invalidates your argument. To suggest that it's the only reason Matchroom and Boxxer have struggled is way out of kilter.

I completely understand your disappointment that cards have been padded out - at times cheaply - with low quality women's bouts. The strength in depth simply isn't there and there's too many mismatches.

For me there's two or three key things that are way bigger factors than this.

1 - Boxxer invested big in the 2021 Olympians who haven't paid off. Some big established signings - notably "face of Sky Sports Boxing" Okolie - were really poor and offered next to no value. They took a long time to get on their own two feet, and relied on Eubank - who was then a Wasserman fighter - to sell Box Office events for them. Shalom seems to be getting more confident but the feeling still remains they are struggling.

2 - The Matchroom stable has aged and retirees have not been replaced. At one stage they almost had a lock on the biggest names in British boxing. Without exception, the big crossover fights were theirs until Fury boxed Wilder for the first time. Now, who have they got in the UK of any real level? At the very end of their careers are Joshua and Callum Smith. Good fringe prospects who should be taking a step up like Dalton Smith. Conor Benn has a big profile now like it or not, and Johnny Fisher sells tickets. Then some talented lads who could go either way - the McCormacks, Brown, McGrail etc. It is the weakest their UK stable has been since Hearn Jr came into prominence imho.

But most importantly…

3 - Queensberry became the lead promoter for Riyadh Season, and began to sign swathes of high profile fighters because of this. Off the top of my head they've secured names like Josh Taylor, Wardley, Okolie, Parker, Kabayel, Zhang, and many more I'll have forgotten. Some of their prospects from a few years back - Dubois, Ball and Sheeraz most notably - have come very very good, and Itauma is clearly one of the hottest prospects in boxing.

Truth be told, the others probably aren't really trying to overtake Queensberry in the short term, they are too far behind. They are looking to sign the prospects who will help them challenge Queensberry by 2028-30.

 

Queensbury closed the gap and arguably overtook Matchroom because of focusing on the heavyweights.. All casuals really care about is heavyweights

 

The other thing is there is only so many times you can con people with the same spin and lies.

People do eventually wake up.

 

I will tune in to the main event at least, as the first fight was entertaining; I have no interest in the rest of the card. I can only hope this time we get fair scorecards; it is one thing to put on an event of such a (low) calibre, it is another thing to put on such an event with rigged officiating. If we can't see fair officiating for a British level scrap between two limited boxers then when can we expect to see it? I seriously wonder as to the point of this sport when fights as inconsequential as Allen vs Fisher can't be scored fairly.

 

Unlike most of this forum I'm not anti-Hearn, I think he's a top promoter. But the undercard this weekend is definitely far too safety first.

Look at the KO ratio's of the opponents:
Kieron Conway vs Gerome Warbuton 15(2)-1-2
George Liddard vs Aaron Sutton 19(3)-1
Jimmy Sains vs Gideon Onyenani 7(0)-4
John Hedges vs Nathan Quarless 13(0)-1

 

I thought so to until I saw 65,000 pack out that shitehole in tottenham for an area level fight.

 

I think this is a great fight, first was brilliant. Both nice guys very likable earning a few quid and will hopefully go to war again.

 

Do you mean eubank v Benn? Have you watched area level boxing before, it’s no different to amateur or white collar half the time. Those two guys are a million miles away from area level.

 

Funnily enough connor benn has never even won an area title. I will edit my original comment from area to white collar level

 

It's sad that Eddie Hearn / Matchroom has lost all interest in the U.K.

I've heard that Dave Allen hasn't been training seriously and only shows up to collect his paycheck.

Hope I´ve heard wrong and we get a good fight on Saturday ! The rest of the card doesn't matter.