Jones Jr v Golovkin At Middleweight

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  1. Coco

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    Roy Jones Jr v Gennady Golovkin at Middleweight, who you got and how? :)
     
  2. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    GGG was great and gets underrated.

    That being said, GGG is a very calculated fighter. Perhaps too calculated.

    Jones will out speed him with ease and we must not forget that Jones had outstanding power. I mean Jones carried his power to 175 lbs. At 160, Jones was every bit as hard hitting as GGG himself.

    GGG will try to close the distance vs the quicker moving man but the second he gets hit by a big Jones left hook or a big Jones combination, he will adopt his cautious and calculated style that we saw in the first two Canelo fights. (for the record, i believe GGG was robbed vs Canelo in the first fight).

    To beat Jones, you have to take the fight to him and GGG will find it hard to do. Jones has quicker hands, much quicker feet and hits equally hard. GGG will struggle with the hand speed of the quicker man.

    GGG will be able to win 3-4 rounds just based on how disciplined he was with his jab. And yes, GGG will land the occasional big right hand or left hook which will hurt Jones but ultimately, i think GGG is just too disciplined to really go after Jones, especially once he tastes Jones's power.

    Jones Jr by decision, something like 9-3 or 8-4. Competitive but clear win for Roy.
     
  3. JohnThomas1

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    Jones by decision.Too fast for GGG.
     
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  5. Devon

    Devon Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Jones would land lead left uppercuts very frequently here.
     
  6. META5

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    Not as comfortable as the Toney fight but more comfy than the B-Hop for sure.

    GGG has solid fundamentals and good timing but the relative lack of speed and likelihood of walking into weirdly angled shots, I don't see where GGG gets the sustained success to break Roy down.
     
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  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I liked GGG.

    He had some great attributes. But he had a small reach, little head movement and was very easy to hit.

    So my guess would have been a U/D for Roy.
     
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  8. BCS8

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    RJJ had some great speed and flashy punching.

    The problem is that he had a lightbulb chin and I don't believe that he'd be able to deal with the kind of sustained pressure that Golovkin would bring. GGG would simultaneously have the best footwork and best jab that RJJ would have ever faced. He'd be forced to engage and he'd take punishment. Yeah, I know that Jones was a helluva puncher. But GGG has one of middleweight's great chins. He could soak up punishment and call for more. Literally. Jones ... not so much. I don't fancy his chin against Golovkin's atom bomb punches very much at all.

    I think RJJ would look good out of the gates, but as the fight wears on he's going to get slower and less flashy until Golovkin catches up to him and stops him.
     
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  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    What a surprise.


    Roy didn't have a lightbulb chin.


    GGG has got a small reach and is noticeably slower.

    Roy was incredibly elusive.


    It's highly unlikely that the jab would have caught Roy.

    Did GGG have a better jab than Hill?


    Did GGG have better footwork than anybody else Roy ever faced?


    You don't fancy Roy's chin against GGG's bombs?

    But that is making the huge assumption that he could have landed those shots.

    Roy could have beaten him to the punch.


    What has GGG done to have been favoured to have beaten Roy?

    Derev, Jacobs and Canelo all gave him huge trouble.
     
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  10. BCS8

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    Well, ok, fair argument.

    Here's evidence of RJJ and his lightbulb chin:

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    But I am a fair handed poster. Therefore, here are all of Golovkin's stoppage losses too:


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  11. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Mr. Sarcasm is back.


    First of all, none of those knockouts help you here.

    This is a fantasy fight against prime versions of each fighter.


    Then let's look at the knockouts:

    1. Most of them would have knocked out the majority of fighters at those weights.

    2. He took flush shots when he was past his prime, and in many cases, when he was completely vulnerable and compromised, against bigger fighters than Golovkin, several weights higher.


    At MW, Roy was one of the fastest fighters of all time.

    He'd have been fighting a much slower guy, who was very hittable, who had a small reach with little head movement.


    Now Roy beat comparable fighters to GGG.

    Yet GGG hasn't beaten, or even seen, anybody that even resembles a prime Roy Jones.


    Roy would have been the significant favourite by any metric.
     
  12. FThabxinfan

    FThabxinfan Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Only shot of GGG winning is if he trained with Hopkins and learnt how to smother like him,up close his bomb could finally touch the baby chin of Jones.
     
  13. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Roy would beat GGG by 8 or 9 rounds, Golovkin has his moments
     
  14. BCS8

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    Jones simply doesn't have the steel to go down the line with Golovkin. He was a glass cannon. Yeah, he was an athletic prodigy. But his fundamentals were not great and he was unable to take a lot of punishment. Golovkin has only average speed as a boxer but his fundamentals are great and his toughness is fantastic. He's like the Juggernaut. He'd make the damage stick in the end.

    There's nobody who Jones beat that is 'comparable' to Golovkin.

    Here's the list of RJJ opponents who had the same as or more middleweight title defences than Golovkin:


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  15. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I knew GGG was overrated the moment boxing fans picked him over Monzon. GGG hasn't touched anything like Roy ???? Canelos pretty durable but his movement made GGG miss way too much and he's flat footed in general let alone compared to jones. GGG doesn't even have the kind of power to put Jones out with 1 shot because realistically that's all he's going to be landing. Roy would be too fast, this is a pretty easy fight to imagine imo. We should also take into account Roy's own power would make Golovkin think