Joseph Parker gets sent to the 1960s, does he clear the lot ? (Boxing Evolution Theory)

Average height of top boxers in Ali's day - 6'2" or 6'3"

Average height of top boxers today - 6'5" - and they are MOBILE and powerful with it. A

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List of recent boxers who could likely beat Ali due to this - Lennox, Wlad, Fury, AJ, Parker, Usyk and several more.

Ali was beaten by LESSER men than these in his own day.

 

Yes, the Parker who has struggled with Chisora and Whyte would magically beat Ali.

Again the size thing has been disproved so many times. Lewis lost to smaller men and struggled more with smaller men than with larger ones. Ditto for Wlad.

Parker has nothing to beat Ali with. Neither does Fury and AJ for that matter. Ali would give more of a boxing lesson to AJ and Fury than Usyk did.

 

Since there is no way of proving any of this either way,

I guess all this "guessing" is a waste of time

and should be left alone

But no-one will ever change my mind on this.

Today's SHWs are bigger, taller, stronger, fit and mobile. They would MONSTER the old guys and give them fits.

 

All of those other fighters have also struggled with, and being beaten by, far lesser fighters.

And it would be a huge list if I was to list them all.

Context is the key.

 

We can't prove it. But we can use common sense. Logic. We can make educated guesses based upon various things.

I personally think that you're trolling for a joke. Simply because what you've typed, is completely and utterly illogical.


Now, if you'd said that you believe that AJ, Fury, Parker and Usyk, could have competed in any era, then that would have been fine. There would be no argument from anybody.

Yet you haven't said that.

You have said that in your honest opinion, those guys would have DOMINATED the 60's, 70's and 80's.


Now that statement simply doesn't hold up does it.

Now, you can say that Ali lost to lesser guys, without applying the relevant context needed. Yet I can do the same of your opponents. And I can do that with, or without applying context.


Fury has struggled with/being beaten by:

Cunningham, Wlad, Wilder, Sefari and Usyk.


AJ has struggled with/being beaten by:

Wlad, Dubois, Ruiz and Usyk.


Parker has struggled with/being beaten by:

H Fury, Ruiz, Whyte, Joyce and AJ.


Usyk has struggled with Breidis and Fury.


Now take that onboard.

That is factual information.


Now considering that, how could you, or anybody, be confident that those guys above could have DOMINATED three decades, which contained the following fighters:

Sonny Liston
Muhammad Ali
Joe Frazier
George Foreman
Ken Norton
Larry Holmes
Mike Tyson

??


It's nonsensical.


Then there's the Ali and Usyk comparison:


Two fighters of the exact same size.

Same height. Same reach. Same weight.

Both with limited power, but excellent footwork, accuracy and timing.


Usyk with great southpaw skills.

Ali with phenomenal speed, and an unorthodox style.


Now let me explain this to you:

It is completely and utterly illogical, for either you or anyone else, to believe that:

One of those guys would have DOMINATED.

Yet one of those guys couldn't even have COMPETED.


It doesn't make any kind of sense whatsoever.


Nothing that you have typed on this thread contains any logic.

So you're either trolling for a joke, or you have a very limited amount of knowledge of what's being debated.

 

Nope??


Really??


So:

Joseph Parker could barely beat Andy Ruiz and Hughie Fury, and he couldn't beat Joe Joyce, Dillian Whyte or AJ.

Yet in your mind, that same guy would have DOMINATED the following fighters:

Prime Ali
Prime Holmes
Prime Foreman
Prime Tyson

?


Yeah.

You ARE trolling.

 

This is one of the most ridiculous things that I've ever read.

So I can only assume that you, and the guys who's liked the post, are all trolling.

 

What Foreman and Tyson would do to Parker is akin to legalised homicide.

 

Laughable

 

100%

So come back and have an objective debate.

 

Prime Mike Tyson gives anyone in history a hard night.

We all know that

 

So which giant did Sonny duck?

Parker has looked nothing but ordinary to me in all departments except heart. I think Sonny KO's him in the latter rounds.

 

We get it man, you think bigger is better.

History proves you wrong but whatever.

 

No, the evolution of boxing (especially heavyweight boxing) does not follow that of other sports. In most other sports yes there are advances in training, knowledge and "nutrition" that occur with the influx of talent into the sport remaining constant. With boxing whilst the evolution in intangibles remains constant as with other sports, the influx of talent has declined, most likely with the fear of participants developing CTE/brain damage, with Ali being a poster boy as to the risks. As such the peak of median boxing talent was most likely at some point in the 70's/80's; even given the restraints of their time, I wouldn't back todays heavyweights to beat those of the 70's. If all other factors were equal and talent was the only factor, then the heavyweights of past would rein supreme, and I say that without an ounce of hesitation.

 

Come on man you have to be joking right? If this is true, then why is a "little" dude ruling them all?