Joseph Parker gets sent to the 1960s, does he clear the lot ? (Boxing Evolution Theory)

Neither hear nor there. Again, he was fighting much smaller, less physical fighters.

 

And Parker was fighting candy-asses with Insta pages. Neither here nor there.

 

Sure, man. You keep arguing when I have told you I don't really have a dog in the fight. If you want to believe that Liston could have beat these guys today, go right ahead.

 

Parker shouldn't be anywhere near 270lbs. His conditioning has always been garbage.

 

You keep contradicting yourself. Therefore it’s difficult for those of us trying to “debate” with you to hit a moving target.

It has been pointed out to you that the smallest of today’s heavyweights rules the division. You conveniently dismiss this because it doesn’t suit your flimsy argument. The only concession that you make is that Usyk is special.

Well chum, as much as you don’t like it, Ali, Foreman, Frazier, Holmes and Liston were also special. And every single one of them would beat Parker like a red-headed stepchild.

 

Parker is on a good run, but he has become a low output fighter (approx. 250 punches thrown against Wilder and 350 against Zhang). Can he even fight at a decent pace these days with his age and added muscle?

Those punch stats just aren't good enough for the 60s-70s guys who threw punches all night long for 15 rounds.

 

In New Zealand we have had one of the best Rugby teams in the world for over 100 years.

In the 1970s were some of the greatest legends the sport has ever seen

And yet there is no-one who would even begin to argue that the 70s team would beat today's team.

It is all about SIZE and MOBILITY and ATHLETICISM. Today's boys are bigger, stronger, faster, better trained.

Every single sport has this pattern. And boxing is no different.

Today's players simply WIPE THE FLOOR with those old guys. And it is OBVIOUS.

 

Let me repeat - It Is OBVIOUS.

 

He used to come in a lot lighter.

He seems to be carrying the extra weight well but he should definitely be lighter for Uysk.

 

Can anyone explain to me

Why SIZE and Athleticism have mattered so much in Rugby over the last 50 years (a heavy contact sport)

And yet somehow Boxing is immune??

We know that today's Rugby players wipe the floor with even the legendary teams of 50 years ago.

Why can't we admit this is the case with Boxing too?

 

You are conflating two different things which is a simpleton’s way of arguing.

How did George Foreman come back and win the undisputed, lineal HW title 20 years after winning it the first time? Phil Mickelson won a major golf title weeks before he turned 51 if you really want to go down your silly path of comparing sports.

But really, all you need to do is draw a formline through the Holyfield/old Foreman era to completely disprove your argument. Hell, George Foreman shatters your argument straight up, in worse fashion than he shattered Michael Moorer’s chin.

 

Bob Beamon held the world long jump record for 23 years. He has held the Olympic long jump record for 57 years.

So, no it is not OBVIOUS at all.

 

Michael Moorer was only 6'2" tall. He was literally a blown-up LHW.

Very lucky that Big George was able to face someone an inch shorter than him to gain the title.

If that fight is your "proof" then you are in real trouble.

 

If only we could see today's SHWs standing next to all these guys, we would suddenly see the truth-

"Liston's best opponents were pretty undersized compared to Joe and the guys he fought:

Patterson- 6'0", 189, World Champion
Patterson- 6'0", 194, #1 NBA contender
Foley- 6'1",198.5, #3 NBA contender, #1 Ring Magazine
Williams- 6'2", 215.5 Unranked
Willlams- 6'2", 210, # NBA 10 contender
Machon- 6'0", 196, #2 NBA Contender, #3 Ranked Ring Magazine
Valdez- 6'3", 211, #2 Ring Magazine
Summerline 6'1", 201, Unranked
Summerline 6'1", 206, Unranked
Marshall, 6'0.5", 18, Unranked
Marshall, 6'0.5", 179, "Honorable Mention" at LHW
Wepner, 6'5", 228, Unranked
Clark, 6'3", 215, #5 NBA contender
Rischer, not listed, 200, Unranked
Bethea, 6'0", 204, #8 Ring magazine
Westphal, 5'7.5", 195, Unranked
Besmanoff, 5'11", 201, Unranked
Harris, 6'0", 195, #6 NBA, #7 Ring Magazine
Dejohn, 6'2.5", 202, #9 ranked NBA, #8 Ranked Ring Magazine"