Would Canelo Alverez dominate a prime Jack Dempsey from round 1 (Boxing Evolution Theory)

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  1. Yes Boxing has evolved far too much since then Canelo would destroy him

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  2. Dempsey is too powerful for Canelo

    72.2%
  1. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I was bit with the boxing bug at 23. Boxing not being on HBO or SHOWTIME, and more of the free tv networks hurts boxing now.
     
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  2. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Cojimar 1946,

    Nobody has said otherwise.

    What I’m saying, is that he wasn’t an in your face pressure fighter like Dempsey was.

    Dempsey was like Joe Frazier.

    He didn’t let you breathe.

    So it was a completely different style to have to contend with.

    Why?

    Obviously you can’t have followed his career.

    After his losses to Ward, he was getting knocked out by B level guys.

    He clearly had confidence issues and diminished punch resistance.


    Even if Canelo had beaten a prime Kovalev, and you believe that Kovalev was better than Dempsey, it still wouldn’t have guaranteed Canelo a win over Dempsey.

    Simply because the sport doesn’t work like that.

    That’s triangle theory.

    But as we know, styles make fights.

    I don’t believe so. But again, it doesn’t matter.

    This is looking at Canelo fighting Dempsey.

    It wouldn’t matter if Canelo had beaten 10 Kovalev type fighters.

    Dempsey would have been a completely different stylistic fight.

    So just concentrate on that.


    A small defensive counterpuncher, with a small reach, slow feet and stamina issues.

    Vs

    A fast and aggressive, power punching pressure fighter.

    I think there was a strong possibility that he could have done.

    But it doesn’t make any difference whatsoever.

    It’s completely irrelevant to a Canelo vs Dempsey fight.
     
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  3. m.s.

    m.s. Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yep, old school boxers are usually associated fine technique, experience, and grit. They had to fight often just to make a living. They say James Toney and Mike McCallum are old school and those dudes are scary good, trained by old school trainers. Dempsey was an old school Cruiserweight slugger, assentially, famous for a reason. I would go with Dempsey.
     
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  4. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Canelo always has trouble with boxers that can move well.
     
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  5. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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  6. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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  7. Levook

    Levook Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Jack Dempsey Savages Canelo badly and tears him in half.
     
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  8. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    Really???

    Ignore settings updated
     
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  9. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Why don’t you just do a fantasy fight and ask for opinions?

    It has nothing to do with boxing evolution.
     
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  10. MrPook

    MrPook Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Bivol was a weigh class too big for Canelo. Dempsey is a Cruiser/Heavyweight. Dempsey was used to fighting big guys, he is proven to take that kind of power and hurt big guys.
     
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  11. dmt

    dmt Hardest hitting hw ever Full Member

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    When Canelo can knock out even journeymen 220-240 lb heavyweights, please come back to me.

    This has to be a joke. A complete and utter joke. Its even worse than the Joe Joyce would beat Mike Tyson.
     
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  12. roughdiamond

    roughdiamond Ridin' the rails... Full Member

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    When I read 'Boxing Evolution Theory' I envision Jack Dempsey's body rapidly stretching and growing like The Incredible Hulk until he's the same size as AJ. Or Sugar Valuev.

    Also, Dempsey hurts Canelo.
     
  13. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Dempsey vs Scull?
     
  14. James Hudson

    James Hudson Active Member Full Member

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    No idea why ur replying to me....but u can join ur buddy on my ignore list
     
  15. Lonsdale81

    Lonsdale81 New Member Full Member

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    I don't think it's evolved to the point where somebody like Canelo would beat Jack Dempsey.. same way i dont think i.e Crawford beats Tunney.. Canelo has nothing to trouble prime Dempsey .. he neither has HW power or nifty enough footwork .. Dempsey would take Canelos head off.. & this era comparing I've never really liked too much.. Canelo wouldn't be the so called 'evolved" fighter he is today back in that era.. & Dempsey wouldn't be the same fighter as he was back then if he was transposed to this era too.. i tell u one thing tho.. he's never tasted power like Dempsey's.. Dempsey KOd 200lb HOFer Jack Sharkey.. Wills, Schmelling, Carnera, Levinsky couldn't.. he also KOd another HOFer Billy Miske.. the only man to ever do it.. Canelo didn't even fancy Makabu he knew it was too risky.. he certainly ain't chancing it against Dempsey.. & if boxing is evolving why couldn't Canelo beat Floyd LOL.. & did u even watch his last fight? Scull .. a no name with a poor KO ratio .. that's evolution is it? Dempsey, Gibbons, Tunney etc would batter that fella silly.. ppl talk like these old fellas were crude zombies ploughing forward.. go watch some Dempsey .. he was brutally brilliant.. they just clinched a lot more back then.. if any of these landed on Canelo hed be :sleep:

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