Johnny George Charles Fisher vs. David Allen II & Kieron Conway vs. Gerome Warburton RBR.

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  1. Beale

    Beale Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Yes Allen would be badly planted as soon as Chisora landed his overhead right.
     
  2. Oreet Cha!

    Oreet Cha! I know what I like and I like what I know. Full Member

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    Always seems to be blokes named "Big John".

    Well, at least two of them.
     
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  3. bardin

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    Don't forget that guy with Robin Hood


    oh wait....
     
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  4. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I think they rushed young Johnny back for the rematch too early. He showed where he was at after fight 1, so they should have taken a fight or 2 before going into a rematch, similar to what they did with Conor Benn against Cedric Peynaud all those years ago, and Tyson Fury against John McDermott.

    He should have fought Allen sometime next year after making some adjustments to his game.
     
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  5. uktyson

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    Absolutely right but I still don't think he'd beat Allen Fisher is just another Matchroom gimmick fighter that's been badly exposed Hearn is on his arse lately.
     
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  6. Inglis_1

    Inglis_1 Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Fair enough with that opinion too, but yeah, who knows in a years time or so. Poor match making going straight in with the rematch.

    David Adeleye is another one who got a gift against Kamil Sokolowski, so sure enough, they kept him away and built a very limited fighter to the British title with his only loss coming against a far better opponent in Fabio Wardley.
     
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  7. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Fisher has way too much to learn to ever be above Area title level even if at some point they can engineer him a British title, which I wouldn’t put beyond them.

    It was extremely poor judgment on Hearn’s part to put such a limited fighter in with a veteran with skills like Allen. We had already seen how limited he was in the Henry Armstrong fight.

    It was a risk they didn’t need to take. By some kind of miracle Allen actually turned up in shape, but that is always the risk you take with using him as an opponent.

    Mistake to take the first fight and even bigger mistake to do the rematch. And despite the comical regularity that these rematches backfire on Hearn he still cannot help himself can he?
     
  8. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Allen was obviously brilliant in the finish.

    I do think a lot of people are underestimating just how poor Johnny Fisher is.

    I'd say even Adeleye who isn't brilliant would beat Allen comfortably
     
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  9. destruction

    destruction Obsessed with Boxing Full Member

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    Adeleye comfortably gets rid of Allen. He said in an interview after the fight that he didn’t understand why Fisher was so tentative and how he played into Allen’s hands.

    Adeleye would physically bully Allen and either win on points of via a stoppage. The other unknown with Allen is whether he is capable of dedicating himself to another 12 week Jamie Moore camp? Or does he go back to what he was before?

    The finish he delivered there wouldn’t have been possible without his fitness levels being far higher than usual.
     
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  10. sniffmybadger

    sniffmybadger Relationships are not my forte Full Member

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    Adeleye would be to much for Fisher. I can't see Eddie sticking him in with someone like Adeleye any time soon. It will be a rebuild against a few absolute puddings in the next year or so. The "Bosh army" is to important for selling tickets, otherwise If Fisher didn't have them behind him, Matchroom would cut him loose
     
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  11. ipitythefool

    ipitythefool Prediction ? Pain Full Member

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    He can still fight for the esteemed Essex Bosh Area title.
     
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  12. Sonny1

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    It’s mad isn’t it? I stand by what I have been saying for a while, that he’s an accident waiting to happen (which is what none of us want).

    I saw an interview where one of his team said he only decided to turn pro, pretty which on a whim, after he was asked if he fancied going pro himself at the first professional training camp he had ever been invited to as a sparring partner. He was still at university at time. What kind of a strategy for going into the toughest sport of all is that? It’s madness.
     
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  13. TBC-ASAP

    TBC-ASAP Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Yeah I could be going mad but I am sure someone connected to MR/Fisher floated Moses Itauma as a fight not that long ago.

    It's another case of Eddie really only understands ticket sales and marketing. It's easy to say now but once again he's got a step up in class badly wrong for one of his fighters
     
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  14. boxberry92

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    Lest we forget - Hearn, the carnival preacher of sweet nothings.

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  15. Beale

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    That is Hearn in full flow and sadly many mugs believe him.

    Never seen anything in Fisher and many journeymen are better than him.

    Hearn will give him knockovers for a couple of years now, then he will have the nerve to stick Bosh on Box Office for the English Title against a similar standard low level opponent who will most likely be very old in 2 years such as Joe Joyce or even War Chisora.

    He will still get beat.

    This is the Hearn way as seen with Benn and Joshua.
     
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