Joseph Parker gets sent to the 1960s, does he clear the lot ? (Boxing Evolution Theory)

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Would Joseph Parker overwhelm the 1960s ?

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  1. Parker destroys those outdated heavyweights

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  2. He beats everyone but Ali

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  3. No

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  1. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Usyk is bigger than the top guys from every era up until Lennox. (ie. 2000s).

    Usyk weighs 225 pounds, while prime Ali weighed about 210 pounds or less.

    Usyk also engages much more and at a much higher rate. He tires the opponent out with constant activity.

    That elusive busyness is the main reason he can hang with the bigger boys.
     
  2. Mark Anthony

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    Maybe, but Ali carried 225lbs in the 70`s and still looked lean, plus he had an incredible chin, Holmes was the same size as Usyk and had a longer reach, Bruno was much bigger than Usyk except in height but didn`t have Usyk`s chin or speed, Bonecrusher Smith was slighly bigger than Usyk, Ruddock was the same size but longer, Tony Tucker was 6`5 and had a longer reach than Usyk and a granite chin. Bowe was bigger than Usyk. Tyson weighed 225lbs and had more power than Usyk.
     
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    Usyk is poor at blocking punches.
     
  4. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    This change has happened in American Football, Rugby, League and every Full Contact sport.

    It is not just SIZE. It is Mobility, Training, Height, Gym-work and everything

    Only in boxing do people make the ridiculous claim that BIGGER is not better.

    And yet our very own WEIGHT CLASSES preach the exact opposite.

    They preach that SIZE DOES MATTER.

    And on average, CWs simply cannot compete with SHWs. It is simply a fact.
     
  5. Loudon

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    Michael Moorer would not be beaten by EVERY HW today.


    The entire line up of old legends cannot compete with today’s guys, due to height, mobility and athleticism?

    Yet the very guys you speak of, cannot beat a guy of Ali and Foreman’s size (Usyk), and they have STRUGGLED with, and LOST to, fighters who were far INFERIOR to those guys of the past that you speak of.


    That is a FACT.

    So either stop trolling, or stop embarrassing yourself.

    It’s cringeworthy.
     
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  6. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    Stop.


    You can’t even get Ali’s weight correct.

    He didn’t weigh 210 or less.


    Ali was even faster and more elusive.


    You’re an embarrassment.
     
  7. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    We have different size HW’s.

    But they’re all HW’s.


    A smaller HW fighting a bigger HW, is not the same as fighters from different weight classes fighting each other.
     
  8. Loudon

    Loudon Loyal Member Full Member

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    I love the irony of you being a Tua fan.

    Could David have competed in today’s class?

    Or would he have had to have drained down to WW, because he was so small?
     
  9. Kiwi_in_America

    Kiwi_in_America The Tuaminator Full Member

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    Speaking of Tua - who was 240 pounds or so.

    He knocked out Michael Moorer in less than 30 secs.

    But could he hang with today's giants? Probably not.

    Which is why Lennox beat him so handily
     
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    And according to the Records,

    Ali in his prime weighed between 201 and 212 pounds
     
  11. Loudon

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    So he knocked out a guy of Usyk’s size.

    Moorer and Usyk were practically the same size.

    We aren’t going to argue over an inch.


    Common sense states that Tua would have had mixed results in today’s era, just like he did in his own era.

    He’d have won some and lost some, simply depending on who he fought, and how they’d have matched up stylistically.


    Also, the great Lennox Lewis was knocked out by 2 guys who were only 6’2, and Mercer at 6’1, came within a whisker of beating him.


    Mike Tyson would clear up today’s division, including Usyk.

    Mike would have been an horrific stylistic match up for Usyk.
     
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    Yes - Ali has a chance and Tyson has a chance and Tua has a chance.

    But on average they lose to the giants.

    Simple math.
     
  13. Loudon

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    You initially said that Ali couldn't have competed today?

    So which is it?


    Yes, of course he'd have had a chance.

    Usyk is literally dominating the sport based upon his skills, speed and movement.


    A prime Ali was even faster and more elusive than Usyk.


    Mike would have cleared up today too.


    Tua wouldn't have had the same chance, because he was simply inferior to Ali and Mike.


    But on average, they'd have lost to the giants?

    Which giants??


    AJ, Fury, Wilder, Zhang and Parker etc?

    Guys who have lost to Usyk, as well as guys who were completely inferior to Ali and Mike etc??


    You're all over the place.

    Full of silly claims and huge contradictions.
     
  14. Mark Anthony

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    Parker is only 6`4 and has a short reach.
     
  15. Mark Anthony

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    Ali was more open to hooks than Usyk is.