Joseph Parker gets sent to the 1960s, does he clear the lot ? (Boxing Evolution Theory)

You keep saying Heavyweights 70s/80s are too small and "Cruiserweight" sized that's false.

6'3 220 is not Cruiserweight sized especially when alot of Heavyweights back then cut weight because cardio was important with there being 15 round bouts.

Bigger doesn't mean better and I don't know why you think Fury is some monster he's struggled in numerous fights against mediocre opposition and has a very thin resume.

 

Basic Question: Where are all the 6'2" and 6'3" boxers today?

Answer: The vast majority are in the Cruiserweight div. Today. Right now.

Why? Because they cannot compete with the 6'6" giants in the HW div.

Where were the majority of those 6'2" and 6'3" boxers 50 years ago?

They were in the HW div because 6'3" was actually a BIG boxer back then.

There are almost no 6'3" boxers today who can actually dominate at HW.

Usyk is an exception because of his incredible activity, pressure, movement and relentless style.

Ali did not come close to that activity level. In fact, no 6'3" boxer ever has, to my knowledge.

Almost all of those guys would be in the CW division today.

 

Usyk 6'3, Kabayel 6'3, and Chisora could possibly be in the top 10 and he's 6'1 so that's 3 fighters in the top 10.

Chisora also only has a 74 inch reach BTW which would be below average reach for alot of the best Heavyweights in 70s/80s.

Wrong.

Are we going to pretend 6'0 T-Rex arms Andy Ruiz didn't batter 6'5 Joshua all over the ring ?

There's plenty of examples throughout history of smaller Heavyweights beating big sized Heavyweights just look no further than Chris Byrd, Evander Holyfield.

Didn't 6'3 210 pound Cunningham drop Fury and have alot of success vs him ? so why don't you think much greater Heavyweights couldn't have success vs Fury ?

Kabayel and Usyk ?

Ali threw close to 1000 punches against Frazier in the Thriller in Manilla.

Ibeabuchi broke the Compubox record.

Holmes/Norton fought a high activity 15 round fight with both fighters throwing over 100 punches combined in the last round of a 15 round war.

The bigger Heavyweights struggle against Usyk because they haven't got the skill level or cardio to compete with him. That's why it's very logical to think great Heavyweights of the past of similar size to Usyk could have success in this era based on their skills, cardio.

 

We are talking about actually DOMINATING against the top SHWs. Dominating the whole division.

Usyk is the only 6'3" guy that I have seen who has any chance of doing that

Sadly, I believe that even Ali would get flattened

All of those guys would be considered NATURAL CWs today.

Not Heavyweights.

 

But no one said Heavyweights of the past would necessarily dominate against every Heavyweight now but neither does Usyk he's had some tough fights.

But you're saying none of them would be able to compete and that's just flat out wrong the likes of Ali, Holmes, would make Zhang, Wilder, Wardley, Chisora, look silly.

Fury would be a tough fight but he's also not in his prime anymore and has struggled numerous times against fighters of 6'3 like Pajkic, Cunningham, Usyk, McDermott. So i have no idea why you think no other 6'3 fighter in history could beat Fury especially when he's barely had a prime.

 

By today's standards, Ali is a "little" HW. In his prime he weighed between 201 and 212 pounds.

Just imagine him up against our MOBILE 6'6" athletes of today. His natural weight is 50 pounds less!!

How does he keep them off? It is a CW against a modern SHW.

You can dream if you want, but I don't think it ends well.

 

Cunningham 6'3 210 pounds I suppose Cunningham is greater than Holmes and Ali then since he was able to compete with Fury ? But according to your logic the likes of Holmes and Ali can't compete and I'm dreaming ?

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Aren't we talking about boxers in their PRIME here?

Young Fury had some lessons to learn.

Anyway, we are talking about consistent dominance over the whole HW div here. Not one-off rarities.

Look at who has actually DOMINATED the division over the last 25 years.

Apart from Usyk (who is the real exception here) it has always been BIG strong SHWs around 6'5" or more.

You have to be that big to stand a chance of ruling the division nowadays.

 

How to say you know nothing about boxing without admitting you know nothing about boxing.

 

PUTTING STUFF IN CAPITALS JUST MAKES YOU LOOK LIKE A MORON.

MUCH LIKE ANOTHER FAMOUS MORON WHO PUTS EVERYTHING IN CAPITALS TO MAKE HIS POINT.

 

Ali is not a cruiserweight you dullard. Do you even know what the cruiserweIght limit is? Do you know what Ali’s regular fight weight was?

Fully cut Ali would never be able to make weight at 200lb without absolutely destroying himself. Foreman was bigger again, fully cut he was 220 against Ali. These guys in the 70’s were not fat, cokeheaded blobs like Fury. They were athletes and they’d run rings around him, Parker, the fat useless Chinaman and any other 2025 heavyweight (Usyk aside) that you want to put up against them.

They are not in any universe cruiserweights.

 

Ali could very easily cut weight to CW

Big George might struggle to make weight.

Which means he would be a small, slow HW by today's standards

 

Let me close by saying this:

Every legend in the sport was a legend for a reason.

The skill, courage, tenacity and champion qualities they showed are undiminished

And I guess the one thing we can take away from this thread is that it is unwise to try comparing different eras

Not worth the aggravation

I hope nothing I have said here detracts from the respect that is due to every one of these great champions

Peace out.

 

Bro, stop it

It's getting embarrassing now

 

Almost everything you have said detracts from the respect these legends have earned.

Almost everything.