Your Mickey Walker ranking?

You could make a case for top 5 p4p of all time.

 

The draw w/ Sharkey is 1 of the greatest single feats by any fighter in history IMO. His decisive wins over ex-lhw champs McTigue & Berlenbach also get criminally overlooked IMO.

#6, behind srr, greb, Langford, Charles, & Armstrong.

 

P4P #12 all time.

WW and MW respectively, based solely on fights contested in those divisions, I can't remember exactly, but in both cases he's top 20, not top 10, on my all times lists.

 

I would argue that he scored some of the best non-title wins by a champ in either division, though.

While still ww champ & weighing a couple lb over the limit, he was roundly credited w/ outfighting reigning lhw champ McTigue in a no-dec.

As mw champ, he blasted out McTigue in 1 & battered ex-lhw champ Berlenbach while weighing only a lb or 2 over the mw limit himself.

 

I think how we determine which weight divison a fight contributes to a boxers ranking at, differs.

If I understand you properly, any fight where Walker weighed under or around 147lbs contributes to his WW ranking, regardless of the weight of his opponent.

I assign fights to the weight divison they were contested at. E.g. Berlenbach was 174lbs vs Walker and McTigue 2 weighed 172lbs in their 2nd fight. These fights were contested at LHW and as such, for the purposes of my rankings, contribute to Walker's record and ranking at LHW, not MW.

P.s. I'm not saying my way of assigning contests to a fighter's standing in specifc weight divisions is better than yours, or vice versa, just that they're different.

 

I think all fighters should be rated in their True 'main' Division, though I understand too, that a fighter moving up in weight as he gets older, 'IF' he spends a substantial time in it, can be rated at the higher weight.

Win or a 'Proper Contested' Loss outside of a fighters division takes nothing away from his Main division rating, it only adds to it.

as too all the 'great' Fighters a Fighter meets, that has to be viewed in context too, lets be honest it is mostly American fighters, in the past particularly, that benefited from such privilege and I agree that American Rings were typically better, though No Better than many of the True Top men from other Leading Boxing Nations...

so it has to be calibrated properly, as the saying goes, you can only fight those put in front of you or allowed to compete against.

It follows that a lot of ATG Ratings, though conceivable, are often a bit gratuitous, which both misleads, while favouring some and excluding others... as I always say Rating 100%, is not only inaccurate, but also IMPOSSIBLE!

as to Walker, is he an ATG, yes,
is he Overated Yes, but his Bull Strength & Little Bigman prowess certainly assisted him In & OUT of his division.

IF ALL the True Top Men could viable meet, beat, defeat or get defeated by one another, then we could be more accurate, as that was/is both impossible & often times purposeful, we only have the 'attempts' at trying to contrive just Who 'might' be the Best???

and as I always say, I prefer to think of Great Fighters & their true top contenders, to be Among the Best & Greatest Boxers in History.

 

Top 10 greatest of all time

Man the white americans were ****ing badass back in the day. Countless ATG's. It's a shame they are little, tiny minority in all USA boxing gyms now.

 

Who didn't foresee this fool getting banned?

 

I think his ww run is criminally underrated. He won the title @ just 20 yrs old by thrashing a vastly more experienced ATG in Britton, soundly beat another hofer in Tendler & a near-hofer in Latzo to defend his title, & is roundly credited w/ outfighting reigning lhw champ McTigue while weighing just a couple lb over 147 himself, which might be the single greatest win ever by a reigning ww champ, but seems virtually forgotten today.