Prime for Prime, Dmitrii Bivol vs. Roy Jones Jr ?

So why didn't he replicate his atg feats post Tarver if that was his prime ? The drug testing rate was homogeneous his whole career, unless you can prove otherwise.

 

He was supposedly clean on the samples against a world class fighter like Harding who was a southpaw like Tarver. Roy has been caught by solid hitters in his prime and took hard punches from Tarver in the first fight

World class fighters who were also juiced to the eyeballs like Hall were so scared of Roy before he lost to tarver lol, I'm sure what went wrong was mainly due to declining reflexes and muscle loss. It's funny that the only test he fails the playing field was even, If Roy were around today he'd probably be using those sophisticated masking agents Canelo did when he KO'd Kovalev and fought Bivol so I'm confident Roy wins either way

 

Plenty of fighters bounce back fine after an initial loss. It stretches credibility to believe none of his opponents pre Tarver believed in themselves or saw his chin as a potential liability.

 

It’s doubtful that Bivol could have beaten Paz.

Paz was faster.

 

It is just pure hate of Roy to put Bivol ahead of him, when all he has done is beat short **** Canelo and old man Beterbiev (which was a great win i will add)

Roy was p4p 1 for a decade when the sport was absolutely stacked with quality fighters,

Lewis
Hopkins
ODLH
Shane
Morales
Mayweather
Barrera
Holyfield
etc
etc

Roy would dominate Bivol in his prime and he ***** all over his career wise

 

Misinformation. Roy was often behind Pernell Whittaker & Oscar De La Hoya, and Mosley, Hopkins, Trinidad.

He was number 1 for 3 of those years, not for a decade.

You can search and see for yourself 'The Ring Magazine's Annual Ratings Pound for Pound'

 

The poll results would be different now had it been after Bivol's career best awesome performance against Beterbiev.

Bivol has fantastic fundamentals and a much better chin. Anyone who claims he doesn't have a prayer really doesn't have a clue about boxing.

& There's no way Jones's fragile chin could have gone 24 rounds with Beterbiev.

 

The monthly rankings were different from the Annual rankings.

Obviously things changed throughout the year, in order to change/influence opinion.

Roy was ranked as the number 1 many times from 1994-2003.

He was introduced to the ring as being the no.1.

In 2002, a proposed rematch between him and Bernard was mooted for the summer of 2002. And at the time, Roy was no.1 and Bernard was no.2.

 

This was my point and many analysts assumed he was the greatest talent in the sport for a decade. Certainly form the late 90s to 03

 

The poll results would have been different, simply because it would have been fresh on everyone’s mind. But then it wouldn’t really have been objective, as people can be more influenced towards something when it’s just happened.

You have just contradicted yourself.

You have just said that anyone who wouldn’t have given Bivol a prayer, doesn’t know anything about boxing.

Yet at the same time, you’ve just said that there’s no way that Roy could have stood up to Beterbiev for 24 rounds.

That’s nonsense.

Roy didn’t have a fragile chin, and you’re making the huge assumption that Beterbiev would have found it.

We’ve also just seen Bivol fight him twice, with great movement.

He didn’t get knocked out.

Did he get hit by huge, flush punches??

Has Bivol got an amazing chin?

And Roy was even faster than Bivol. Faster hands, feet and reflexes.

More powerful and more elusive.

If anything, Bivol is the evidence needed to have given Roy a great chance of having beaten Beterbiev.

We could say that a prime Roy was even better than Bivol.

 

@Loudon Roy Jones Jr was basically a glass jawed version of Joe Calzaghe (on peds)

His glass jaw is irrefutable.

 

None of that makes sense.