One of the most replaceable HW champs? Sonny Liston?

For some odd reason I think Ron Lyle on a good night has a decent chance against anyone on that list.

 

My apologies.

 

For one, we know Machen would run circles around him, given Lyle's inability to deal with slicksters.

 

Get James Toney in there and he cleans it up without any issues and gets a nice burger afterwards

 

Luis Ortiz rolls through them easily and does way better against Ali.

 

It would be interesting to see the Wilder death touch going through the 50s cruiserweights.

 

If Ortiz turned pro earlier how do you think he does? I thought he was just a bit too old when he actually did.

 

I know you set the stage for guys like Hannover Sanders and Tokyo Douglas to show up every night, but Ortiz was consistent enough to not need any of that. Guys routinely went into survival mode against Ortiz who were otherwise game. That's why I named him.

Sanders would definitely have the potential to beat everyone with brutal knvokouts and landslide victories too, but he did hang his chin out to dry even if you take away his inconsistent conditioning, so it's less of a sure thing. The one guy who would have the best chance from back then of chinning Sanders (not counting Liston and Ali) would pretty obviously be Ingo and Liston never fought him.

 

A 6-4, 240 pound southpaw in the 50s-60s? Nobody would fight him...I couldn't imagine Ortiz having a problem with Folley, Machen, Patterson, Harris, Cooper, Chuvalo, London, etc. Ali had some problems with Mildenberger, a much smaller southpaw without Ortiz's amateur pedigree. If, Ali fought Ortiz, he would be the best opponent by far that Ali fought in the 60s.

 

Would love to see it though I think he has a chance if slight especially since he's taking on guys his size more or less rather then the actual modern heavyweights he was taking on.