Why is Roy Jones Jr chin considered so terrible?

I don’t think jones chin was terrible. I just think his ability to take a shot reduced with old age. That and he was sometimes fighting bigger men than he did when he was prime.

 

it depends on how you define big hitter.

A lot of John Mugabi's victims were nobodies too or good fighters without good chins.

Me? I define it: if you can knock people out, even nobodies, you have to have at least some pop in those bones.

It might be simplistic, specially for a person like me that I don't consider myself simplistic and see all points of view when it comes down to other topics, but knockout win percentage I think is the purest form of seeing if a boxer has power or not or had power at a point in their career.

I think Hopkins was a victim of the same thing that happened to Floyd Mayweather Jr., Manny Pacquiao, Canelo Alvarez and, to a lesser extent, Wilfredo Gomez later in their career: As they gained weight and/or incurred hand injuries, their power statistics suffered too.

 

The same thing happened, to a lesser degree, to Eusebio Pedroza....

The guy who went 30 rounds with Rocky Lockridge without getting dropped and had not lost in six years, suddenly got dropped by Gerald Hayes who was solid but only like 42 percent of his wins came by knockout, and then got dropped by the hard hitting Barry McGuigan which is not too bad but then he got stopped with old age a few times before hanging the gloves for good.

 

So when he didn't stop anyone he was........"weight drained"......got it! Of course you yourself will be the judge of when he was weight drained, which, obviously, will be ever single time he didn't perform well nooooo doubt. How convenient. Toney, like Duran, never lost a fight when he wasn't perfect

I don't care that Roy was bigger than Trinidad, no-one has ever said other.

Talking about Roy vs Trinidad you stated, and i quote - "Trinidad fought 40 pounds over his natural weight."

I must be a little slow, how do you work out Trinidad was 40 pounds over his best weight??? They fought at 170.

 

Your theory could be supported by a profile of Roy i remember reading (KO, RING?) around the late 90s, which gave his chin a rating of 'A' (IIRC). I suppose this could also be an assumption of it being that good, mainly due to the fact he wasn't hit cleanly much. But that's what it was thought of 'at the time'.

 

pack of know F all idiots looking to troll, or plainly really know F all
He went up in weight, to come back down in his mid 30s, his chin was cracked and never recovered

Not saying hi had a granite chin, but on the rare occasion he was hit in his prime, he handles it well

 

lol he handles being hit on the chin in his prime well does he?

That's funny cause he was P4P number 1 when he got KTFO by Antonio Tarver. I've never known a P4P number 1 not be at least close to their prime.

 

you did not answer my question

 

At a push, given Felix was a big WW, Trinidad's "natural weight" was 147lbs, no lower. He fought RJJ at 170lbs. That's 23lbs diffetence, not 40lbs.

I suspect Trinidad drained to make WW and that his "natural", prime, fighting weight was more like 155-160lbs.

 

Roy ain’t though

 

In their fight,Roy looked way bigger.Trimdidi was largely outgunned.

 

About who did Toney stop when weight drained? Do you think I'm going to delve into all your weight drained claims. He gets no leeway from me bud.

I've never seen so many excuses, and in a thread where you're accusing others of same

 

Agreed.

Out of interest, was 40lbs a miscalculation, deliberate exaggeration or were you under the misapprehension that Trinidad's "natural" weight was 130lbs?

 

ok, you don't have an answer then. it is funny how you never want to admit anything.

 

I guess a little bit of everything. Going through this thread, I have a hard time finding fights where Roy has proved his chin in his prime.