One of the most replaceable HW champs? Sonny Liston?

Imagine actually being dumb enough to believe this. Foster wouldn’t step in the ring with any of Liston’s opponents with a top ten ranking. He beat zero opponents who were rated in the top ten. Hell he couldn’t beat all of the non-ranked cherry picks that he actually did face.

He very nearly got knocked out by a shot Williams in their rematch but of course according to OP, he’s no less than 50-50 against him despite having a much worse record.

 

Now that **** was truly funny. Never a truer word said in jest.

 

The only dummy is you - you have enough trouble speaking for yourself let alone on behalf of others - I’m pretty sure there’s a few who desperately wished that you hadn’t spoken on their behalf……

 

Proffering a one night only Douglas and a Haye IF he turns up defeats the purpose of the question of that compares Liston’s own successful run in the real world. The above qualifiers explain exactly why in irreducible terms.

For mine, Liston beats one night in Tokyo Douglas at any rate.

 

Yep, feel free to give me one, I always post gems.

 

Me, too! I think, if coming up in Sonny's time, Harry Wills has a great chance of going through Liston's record, with wins (including Marty Marshall), through the second Patterson fight. Then Muhammad Ali gets him.

 

To be fair he beat the best of an era, and that is all a champ can do. It is true that his six best wins, especially Patterson, Patterson, Machen and Foley, would be cruisers these days, with even Cleve' probably sliming down, but they all have their own legacy, with a certain respect attached to every name.

 

Yup. My apologies for taking you to seriously. Don't ever know when you're serious or (pretending to) play devil's advocate. You posted this garbage also under the guise of it merely being in jest.

Before revealing, those were your actual feelings.

Given your track record, smart money is on you posting the same thing in the future quietly removing the "literal pile of smileys", just like you removed the "If somebody wanted to be unfair to the 70s," and finally cut the crap, and admitted the garbage you were peddling was actually your view, and stopped hiding behind your devil's advocate malarkey.

 

Not a big John Ruz basher here-I respect his talent and admire him as a champion. But he'd be a solid pick to be among the worst that can beat that crop except maybe for Patterson. Pat was a great champion and would have outboxed Ruiz.

 

That would be his toughest matchup--and Lyle definitely had trouble with slicksters (Jimmy Young a prime example.) But I still think he would have a chance to pull it off if he could somehow land a couple heavy shots early on and go from there.

 

Patterson chins Ortiz.