Oleksandr Usyk is clearly the best fighter of the 21st century uncontested.

Yes.


1 Oleksandr Usyk
2 Manny Pacquiao
3 Floyd Mayweather
4 Wladimir Klitschko
5 Joe Calzaghe


mentions: JM Marquez, Morales, Barrera, Hopkins, Tszyu, Golovkin, Lomachenko, Kovalev, Ward, Alvarez, Beterbiev, Bivol, Crawford, Inoue, Jones Jr, Mosley, V Klitschko, Fury

 

Adam, no version of Pac beats the best Floyd even if he had a size advantage, skill gap is too big.

 

He has a greater resume
You have usyk as the goat, so you must think he is more skilled than Floyd, but that's preposterous

I rate greatness on everything, not just skills. So I probably have manny ahead, considering he started at a much lower weight and has a deeper resume than Floyd

Anyway these 2 are by far imo the greatest of the past couple of decades

 

You can criticize Fury's lack of activity and missing some of his contemporaries all you want.

The facts of the matter are Usyk should absolutely get credit for beating a tall, undefeated champion who outweighed him by 40 lbs. It's an incredible feat no matter how you look at it, especially because Usyk was moving up from cruiser, was even older than Fury, and couldn't rely on raw power to bail him out, Usyk had to earn every round on the scorecards.

This whole schtick where you need to be a f*cking contrarian nitpicking every single thing is old.

 

Manny Pacquiao is the best fighter of the 21st century.

Usyk is top 10 tho.

 

Canelo LOL.. No fkin chance .. he lost to Floyd, CLEARLY lost to triple G twice, then lost to Bivol.. u can't put Canelo ahead of Usyk. Usyk legit beat the best opponents in the two divisions he unified.. & he didn't need a Vegas giftset or Mexican beef to do it.. Canelo gets frustrated in fights, trys karate throwing you when he can't get his way.. Scull, Bivol.. Usyk never has to resort to that.. his career to date is pretty flawless, Canelos is full of asterisks. But but four weight trinket belt blow job Billy bob Saunders yadda yadda ..

 

Please drop the undefeated nonsense. That's hardly a plus for Fury given his rampant ducking. The win would not be seen as so impressive were Fury to lose to a smaller heavyweight like Kabayel or Povetkin. Awfully convenient that Fury didn't face any of them and has people just assuming he beats them.

It's an incredible feat if you believe Usyk is the only smaller heavyweight from this era who could beat Fury but we don't have enough evidence to that effect.

 

Also I'm sick of the 40-50lb weight excuse
Fury is a fat sack of **** and if he had the same body fat as usyk, he would likely only be 20lb heavier

Many heavyweights of the past have overcome such discrepancies. If we mention height and reach? Mike Tyson was nearly always much shorter with much less reach and it didn't do him any harm.

Usyk is a very good fighter, but let's not pretend Ali, Tyson, Frazier, Holyfield, Foreman, Holmes etc wouldn't be competitive against these so called giants. Most of those guys could likely beat Fury, especially 3 years out of the ring, fat and drug addicted Fury and all would beat Joshua imo

 

Who did Fury duck? When did someone become mandatory and formally challenged Fury but were ignored by him?

This has nothing to do with people assuming Fury would've beaten Kabyal or Povetkin. You constantly try to downplay a boxer's win and your criteria is idiotic.

 

Manny is #1 w Floyd a close #2 for me, but thats nitpicking. Usyk and Inoue are up there too in the #3 and #4 spots. Inoue has a chance for #1 if he unifies at 126 also - goddamn.

 

If Inoue becomes undisputed, or unifies at 126? Then I am putting him over Floyd and Manny. I think I may have to. At the very least he's up there with Pacquiao and doesn't have the losses

 

The real question is why did Fury fight unknown guys like Wallin, bum Schwartz, Seferi, a trilogy with an old ass Chisora, and Francis Ngannou instead of Parker, Joshua, Hunter, Kabayel, Joyce, Zhang, Sanchez, Hrgovic, even Ruiz jr. They were all active, available and ranked in that time long period. Notice how Wilder also ducked top contenders and is the least skilled heavyweight champion we've seen since the early 20th century. This isn't a coincidence

 

Usyk, Fury, Joshua and Wilder should be known to history as the 4 ducks. Thats the big takeaway from this era.

 

Not Usyk he's the real deal. Beat the top 3 guys after unifying cruiserweight and did it on their territory, think he's becoming overrated historically, but he is 38 years old and proved his worth at the top, I'd rather him face a new challenge but if he's looking for paydays I can't be mad here