One of the most replaceable HW champs? Sonny Liston?

“They think that I am mentally unstable, I go from thread to thread committing atrocities in Joe Louis’s name”

 

Yep not many wee guys who could do it like Liston did but certainly quite a few from “The Weak” 2000s eras and the 80-90s who weren’t overly impressive for there time he was like Ali in the 60s mostly bigger, stronger and (in Ali’s case more athletic) then his opposition whilst being a good boxer there first fight was like when Patterson passed the torch over to someone who just physically overmatched him as @Seamus says Ali was “too much man” in that case SL sized guys soon became commoner and an outdated model entirely not long after.

 

Laid out my thread clear guys show up in good shape to stop it becoming confusing with timelines. Douglas was so hot and cold it’d pretty simple to say “he might not show up?” Which is valid but not the point, the key wins themselves are unremarkable and I think achievable for Douglas in a calendar year (as they could be for Liston tbh) if he shows up in good shape and that isn’t even weird to suggest. This is my thread yes, I make the rules and if you don’t like them go whine somewhere else lol.

 

Who you picking Ol Ferg?

 

No, no I pushed the create a thread button and laid out rules so it really is my thread lol - you can post however you want but it wouldn’t really be in the spirit of the thread or the question.
I can condense it for you? - “H2H Liston’s key wins are unremarkable and would be beaten by plenty of guys in match ups if they show up in good shape for each bout - agree or disagree?” Does that help? Reply to that question if anything confuses you and “offer up choices for unlikely, unexpected or overlooked guys to beat Listons key scalps on the way to and winning the title” I mean Liston is consistent but that’s irrelevant to the thread and it’s been laid out for you in the two opening posts, if you need clarification for rules just ask. I think lots of guys could beat Patterson x2? Some about the same, some more brutal, some struggling but the result (and that’s winning) is what matters here.

 

TM ima test @McGrain theory… Louis or Whyte?

 

That actually might be brutal @BCS8 - Williams stands a shot if he shows up (the version that fought Liston) but I question his durability and seeing Tokyo Douglas just batter Patterson (Tyson M1) would be gutting TBD might score another jab knockdown in his career for a cool highlight clip doe Folley is mince and a tentative one armed Machen likely just gets boxed up bad.