One of the most replaceable HW champs? Sonny Liston?

Laid out my thread clear guys show up in good shape to stop it becoming confusing with timelines. Douglas was so hot and cold it’d pretty simple to say “he might not show up?” Which is valid but not the point, the key wins themselves are unremarkable and I think achievable for Douglas in a calendar year (as they could be for Liston tbh) if he shows up in good shape and that isn’t even weird to suggest. This is my thread yes, I make the rules and if you don’t like them go whine somewhere else lol.

 

Who you picking Ol Ferg?

 

No, no I pushed the create a thread button and laid out rules so it really is my thread lol - you can post however you want but it wouldn’t really be in the spirit of the thread or the question.
I can condense it for you? - “H2H Liston’s key wins are unremarkable and would be beaten by plenty of guys in match ups if they show up in good shape for each bout - agree or disagree?” Does that help? Reply to that question if anything confuses you and “offer up choices for unlikely, unexpected or overlooked guys to beat Listons key scalps on the way to and winning the title” I mean Liston is consistent but that’s irrelevant to the thread and it’s been laid out for you in the two opening posts, if you need clarification for rules just ask. I think lots of guys could beat Patterson x2? Some about the same, some more brutal, some struggling but the result (and that’s winning) is what matters here.

 

TM ima test @McGrain theory… Louis or Whyte?

 

That actually might be brutal @BCS8 - Williams stands a shot if he shows up (the version that fought Liston) but I question his durability and seeing Tokyo Douglas just batter Patterson (Tyson M1) would be gutting TBD might score another jab knockdown in his career for a cool highlight clip doe Folley is mince and a tentative one armed Machen likely just gets boxed up bad.

 

Feed me more, I’ll need to hear it sir or I’ll be sending you back to the sweatshop on the Foreman shift.

 

Maybe not the way he did but plenty could get those two. Would you wager on a few names? How about say Rocky Marciano? I think he could take care of those guys Liston did potentially, Andy Ruiz Jnr - Dilian Whyte perhaps? I’d like to hear you place your fictional bet.

 

If you’ve misread the thread it’s about individual match ups so It’d be an Inshape jelly doughnut (well A shape LOL) vs the versions of Machen etc Liston fought so Hypothetically the version “around” Ruiz’s prime vs Machen, Folley, Patterson and Williams, Liston was a very consistent HW but that’s a separate thing for a different thread - I personally agree and think that is what separates the good HW’s from the champs is just that most of the time it’s discipline and “desire” (Monzon stayed up till sunrise drinking, smoking and chatting but never missed the gym I’ve read) but honestly what he chalked down on his resume we’re so-so guys I’d pick lots of “weaker era” fighters to replicate said wins say Corrie Sanders coming in, in good shape probably blitzkreig’s them all, Someone mentioned Ortiz not a bad choice, I think a case for Archie Moore could be made even and definitely for Charles before his disease began to heavily effect him.

 

I fixed it for you, classic mistranslation I already saw this episode.
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