Ken Norton Would Get Slept by Povetkin in Every Universe

And yet no one has ever said he did them, in an era when it would have been highly unusual and notable.

 

He'd be a flyweight today. 24 hour weigh ins, man.

 

And here's where we differ a bit. I think Foreman came by his muscle the old fashioned way: By honest training under traditionalist coaches who lacked the S&C knowledge that we take for granted today. (E.g., hydration.)

 

So you choose lighting over drug testing in a fight involving a 100% proven drug cheat.

Nice.

 

There was a very strange Twitter post Foreman made about Norton, related to that. The original was screenshotted on Reddit, which I dunno whether it shows up on this forum, so I'll also post the transcription:

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"Norton was never on any drugs or any other enhancements; you can see him grow from a teen. Serviced in US Marines; he was a natural athlete; well investigated. Please don't start such untrue rumor."

--> Assuming this was actually Foreman and not a member of his staff, I found the "well investigated" comment pretty puzzling. I've never heard of people investigating fighters for steroids in the 70s, and it would be interesting if someone took the time to investigate Norton specifically. (Why?) But there was no further context, so who knows. And Foreman sometimes just said some odd things.

 

Source?

 

So your source is a nameless internet poster who says "everyone" know?

Copy, I guess.

 

Well, we agree there's only the PED version of Povetkin available as a point of comparison. And it's a fantasy fight.

A DQ on a drug test would be a funny result here, but I'm assuming that isn't what the thread is asking about.

 

Another way Norton has been overrated is as the defacto “buzz saw of all boxers” all his results show he is good at getting good “out boxers” some of the time? I think he won Ali 3, some don’t and that was a shot Ali after Frazier 3 (close bout) he debatably lost to Young a not great and the Holmes fight isn’t quite as close as folks say it is for me… losing to Ali in fight 2 when he wasn’t 10lbs heavier made sense but was close again, not sure where his reputation as a “buzz saw” is supported without Futch it’s likely we don’t see weekly threads about the guy.

 

No.

 

The first paper about steroid abuse in sports was printed in the 70s (tells me it was notable) Arnold was juicing up as a teenager in Austria. I think pro athletes would have there sources they’d already started bringing doctors into there camps (Sal Sanchez had one) I believe Ali also but I don’t remember when it became more wide spread.

 

On what basis is Povetkin rated so high? What did he ever accomplish? In an era with about 1,000 belts, he won a vacant ‘WBA regular’ that he defended against old men, a cruiserweight and a nobody.

Win over Ali > win over Cedric Boswell, lol.

 

Yes but who is "people?" People like Taylor Swift and voted for the Nazis. People can't be trusted.

WHO has said it and where?