Were Does Chocolatito Rank P4P All Time?

great fighter. second best nicaraguan fighter ever, imo. probably outside the top 100 p4p all time.

 

Amazing to watch

Shame he never got the push he deserved

 

One of the best and most exciting fighter of his era, that’s for damn sure. He’s most likely within the Top 100 ATG. Amazing fighter.

 

Not even one of the top 15 greatest Latin fighters of all time imo, so hard to consider where he ranks all time.

 

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It's really a shame these are the fighters that I feel for the most, because they don't have the opportunity to fight many other Fighters at a high level, and therefore do not develop their skills to their full potential. I am talking about guys like in no way, Crawford, you sick at heavyweight, and loads of other top fighters. They just don't fight each other a lot the way they used to in the older eras, that's why those old guys were so great on the average and would whoop the average guy today.

Got to love those funny voice recognition mistakes, I had to leave them in they were cracking me up LOL.

 

Top 100

 

I'd like to see someone list 80 boxer's who were greater...

The irony is - and underlining the ignorance - you'll see many rate Ricardo Lopez higher, a man who went no further than light-fly and whose competition was nowhere near as strong.

When Roman was knocked out by Rungvisai the majority who rejected the idea this little guy was the best on the planet (underpinned by aforesaid ignorance) just about forgot about him. 'Told you he was overrated.' Are we talking about the same person? The man who became a four-weight world champion, boasted a Lopez-esque KO percentage, held wins over both Juan Francisco Estrada and the undefeated Carlos Cuadras was overrated? Cuadras, like both Estrada and Rungvisai, were all naturally bigger men. Subtle but significant. At 115 lbs. Roman was not the same physical presence and so had to get by on pure skill and guts. Mostly, he did. The Cuadras win was, emotionally, his Everest.

Now consider the context of his KO loss to Rungvisai. He has a war in a new weight class where he's clearly not as potent. Then he has another war with Rungvisai (many which believe he should have won), and then he goes right back in with him. Very few top fighters have this sort of schedule, alas, we're in the lower weight divisions. No making million with tune-ups. So Choco goes into the rematch worried about headbutts, overeager, and Rungvisai does the business. I don't think it was mission impossible, it was just the perfect storm.

Then we have the improbable comeback. How many former mimimumweights, having gone to the well numerous times, come back in their thirties to have success? Cue that beautiful deconstruction of belt-holder Kal Yafai. Again, clearly the bigger man. Then comes the long-awaited rematch against Estrada, a fight which almost everyone believes Chocolatito deserved to win. In round 12 he unleashes well over a hundred punches, showing Lomachenhko how to close a fight - and yet you'll get so many more defending the latter when it's Gonzalez who should come first when we speak of injustice. The man who understood the demands of greatness.

When a jaded Roman finally enjoyed the size advantage for the first time in a long time, it was all so simple against the spunky Julio Cesar Martinez.

Pardoning the final dance with Estrada which, like Canelo-Golovkin 3, didn't mean a whole lot, it's arguable Choco only one lost fight. Considering it's viciousness, his comeback is all the more special.

 

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I don't know where I would rank him in all honesty, must take a look sometime

I have usyk somewhere top 30/40 with potential to rise higher

 

@themaster458
I'm not even trolling. Some will say that is hate putting usyk at that number along with Holyfield etc, but there are multiple divisions and the sport is well over 100 years old

I think putting any fighter with 30 or less pro fights close to top 30 is rating them high.
I rate him very high, just not pacquiao or Ali high

There are guys on this forum who rate him much lower than me, just not as vocal

 

You are right about Gonzalez, but lighter fighters do tend to get a little more overlooked

Usyk could be top 20?
Could be top 10?
Could be goat?

We all have different opinions mate. I try to keep the trolling to a minimum when I'm discussing with sincere posters.

I have no problem if usyk is over Floyd, just don't **** on floyds talent, just because he was a bellend (that's not aimed at you)

 

A better question is would you rank him above Ward, Canelo, Loma, Crawford, Inoue..?