How Much Do You Agree With These, Regarding Prime Tyson V Frazier?

Prime Tyson (late 80s) , Stop's Joe early?
Prime Frazier (early 70s) If he survives past the first 5 or so rounds, he stops Tyson ?


I've seen these fantasy fight predictions numerous times, but what's your thoughts on These two banging head's?

 

Don`t think Tyson stops Joe early,i know Foreman did but he is a different type of fighter to Mike.
There is a decent possibility of the second instance happenning

 

I'd pick Tyson to win by stoppage,but don't see it happening that early.

 

Tyson stopping Joe early is honestly borderline crazy stuff.

Joe slow smoking Tyson is a given.

 

I think the second eventuality happens.

I've said that Mike Tyson at his absolute very best ... and that was actually a microscopically short period of time in the grand scheme of things ... had the chops to beat any fighter on a given night. And I'm absolutely saying that here.

But only in his dreams has Mike Tyson ever had the balls of Joe Frazier. And with every three-minute period that goes by in this fight, that advantage grows more significant.

 

That's my view tbh, Tyson hurting Joe stopping him around 8 - 10 rounds.
I don't subscribe personally to the Idea that Tyson stops him very early, tho I've seen a good few on here that think that's the way it would go.

 

Yes. I agree with that. The starkest difference between Frazier and Tyson is Frazier can contest a whole 12-15 rounds. Tyson can't.

 

Tyson stopping Joe early is lalaland stuff and runs agaist available evidence.

Big George battered Joe with all his artillery and was unable to put Joe down. Actually Joe was still game when the referee mercifully stopped the fight.

Hard to believe Tyson could stop Joe early, when not even prime George could.

 

It's the idea that Joe was a bit of a slow starter,he could be hurt early and kd.
Tyson was a tremendously fast starter as we know, carried a lot of power there too.
I can understand anyone going along with that view, I just think Tyson would get him later as well.

 

I think Tyson was a sort of evolution of Frazier, great explosiveness and ability to close the distance, devastating from inside, Peek-a-boo for defense and attack, power and speed. For me in his prime Iron Mike would have had a very good chance of beating Frazier by stoppage before the 7th round.

 

Tyson could very well stop him early. Frazier was vulnerable touppercuts, and Tyson’s was vicious. No reason to think that couldn’t play out here. Plus, one is a very fast, powerful quick starter, the other took a bit to get into a rhythm. I could see Joe getting caught a bit cold and taken out for sure.

 

In the early nineties in the section of ring magazine called “ battle of the legends “, James Bonecrusher smith was one of the people asked to give his opinion on the matchup. Remember, Smith fought Mike Tyson and was trained by Joe Frazier. He predicted an early KO win for Tyson.

 

I don't agree.

Frazier was a slow starter and vulnerable to uppercuts that smells like a recipe for disaster against one of the fastest starting Heavyweights of all time who had devastating uppercut aka Tyson.

 

Sure, Joe wasn't the fastest gunslinger around; but was he really such a slow starter?
According to records, he stopped a dozen+ guys within the 3 first rounds, and six more before the 6th round.
No bad for a supposed slow starter.

Certainly, when facing primer opposition Joe would usually take his time to start the fire and get the coals burning, but it doesn't mean he was just a sitting duck during the initial rounds. If necessary, Joe could adapt and be fast and furious from the go.

On the other side, sure Tyson could be overwhelming from the initial round, but under some conditions, such as having a massive advantage or facing an intimidated adversary. But Joe is not Michael "I wanna mah mommy!" Spinks; he won't be intimidated by Tyson's cheap bully tactics, and if Tyson wants to get close and personal, Joe is going to happily oblige and give him war.

And finally, even if Tyson could hurt Joe early, I highly doubt he stops him. Simply put, Joe was a very tough nut to crack, with Big George being the only man able to pull early stoppages on Joe… and Tyson is not Big George.

 

I think that perception is mostly due to Joe being stopped early by Big George twice. But being realistic, Big George simply had Joe's number and enjoyed massive stylistic, power and size advantages. As far as I know, nobody was able to replicate Big George's feat and Tyson is not Big George.

And regarding the slow starter image, I honestly don't know. Sure Joe would frequently go for a slow, methodical approach, settling for an attrition war. But Joe also stopped 20+ guys within the six initial rounds, thus he was not exactly the poster boy for "slow starter".