Taylor was always massively overrated

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  1. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Yeah. Good fighter but a product of the PBC/Showtime smoke and mirrors hype machine. A better ''four-weight'' champion than his fellow PBC/Showtime smoke and mirrors four-weight champion Broner but that's not hard

    Shame we never got to see Loma vs Mikey because Loma would've paddled his ass, taken him to slick school and made him pull a no mas

    Speaking of Mikey

    Mikey on Loma vs Rigo

    ''A lot of time people don't take what I say serious, but I wouldn't be surprised if Rigo pulled it off''

    ''Rigo is a badass''

    ''It's definitely a good fight that's for sure''

    ''I feel Rigo might pull it off''

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    After

    Mikey Garcia: ''Lomachenko gets credit for Linares, but not Rigondeaux, Sosa, or Marriaga''

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  2. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    And?

    Mikey and Taylor can both be overrated,; this isn't a mutually exclusive proposition, my guy.

    Crawford is a potential ATG; I've never rated Taylor beyond a potential HOFer.

    I'm glad I can continue entertaining you, however
     
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  3. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    Serge dropping the hammer.
     
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  4. Joeywill

    Joeywill Well-Known Member Full Member

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    The amount of fights part isn't really a big deal to me

    It just shows that Spence turned pro earlier

    Spence and Taylor are around the same age
     
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  5. MarkusFlorez99

    MarkusFlorez99 Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    Mikey ranks higher, Spence ranked higher
     
  6. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    I very much enjoyed the salty tears of those British nuthuggers when Spence invaded the UK and spanked Brook. I don't consider Spence overrated, to be honest. He ran into an absolute buzz saw that night against Bud. No shame in that.

    I think Mikey achieved more, but that has no bearing on whether he was overrated. Very good fighter, but not a generational talent.
     
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  7. gollumsluvslave

    gollumsluvslave Boxing Addict Full Member

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    That in itself is an interesting thing to consider - how much did the pasting from GGG and drop back to 147 take out of Brook? i.e. a good win for Spence, but maybe not as good as Brook was when he fought Porter?

    All goes to show that pretty much everything on a resume has context...
     
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  8. Dynamicpuncher

    Dynamicpuncher Boxing Junkie Full Member

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    I've heard a few people hype up Crawford's win over Burns but realistically let's be honest Burns was an overachiever I never considered him a top guy.

    Burns/Bertran was indeed a total gift decision no one thought Burns won that fight and he got his jaw broken in the process.
     
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  9. bandeedo

    bandeedo Loyal Member Full Member

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    Garcia is a couple levels above Taylor. Just watching them you can see the difference in technique and execution. If you know what you’re looking at, that is. If you don’t, then any narrative will do.
     
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  10. Jpreisser

    Jpreisser Well-Known Member Full Member

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    Taylor was a very good fighter at his best, but the WBSS tournaments produced a fair bit of unwarranted hype. We saw what happened when Josh Taylor and Callum Smith stepped up to elite opposition afterward. That goes for others, too, like Prograis.

    Still, you have to give the man credit for what he did accomplish, which wasn't easy. He's not a Lynch or Buchanan, but he's still a credit to Scotland.
     
  11. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    It is important. Crawford being 28-0, with six world title fights under his belt, having fought many numerous world class opponents, and having gone the full 12 round distance x 2 and 10 rounds a bunch of times stood him in much better stead to beat Postol than only being 12-0, having 0 world title fights, not having fought any prime world class opponents before, and not having been past 9 rounds before did Taylor

    Becoming undisputed in 18 fights >>>>> winning your first world title in 23 fights and becoming undisputed in 32
     
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  12. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Good guy, good fighter, but as with fellow multiple-weight champs like Broner, Mikey, Twink (who FTR ducked Taylor) there's a lot of smoke and mirrors there. He would've been 0-4 in B2B fights from Gonzalez, Beltran, Crawford, and Zlaticanin if not for corruption and good fortune
     
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  13. Serge

    Serge Ginger Dracula Staff Member

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    Sandor Martin embarrassed Mikey and took him to slick school in Mikey's own backyard but one of the 3 home judges predictably robbed Sandor

    Speaking of robberies let's not forget that one of Mikey's best wins Broner should have about twice the amount of losses on his CV than he did if not for Premier Boxing Criminals and neither he nor Mikey ever fought outside North America.

    Loma would've run rings around Mikey, Mikey never seen anything like Loma before. Loma's speed, slickness, defence and creative offence would've caused him absolute nightmares. I definitely see Mikey pulling a no mas. Hell, he pulled one against Salido after the tide started to turn under the pretext of having a broken nose. Whoever heard of a Mexican warrior pulling a no mas because of a sore nose :lol:
     
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  14. Mark Anthony

    Mark Anthony Internet virgin Full Member

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    Bigger too, Porter was a proven welter despite losing to a big welter in Spence.
     
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  15. hoopsman

    hoopsman Boxing Addict Full Member

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    "Premier Boxing Criminals" :risas3::risas3:

    I've also thought Loma would have beaten Mikey, at least at 130lbs (where Loma was absolutely the complete package--fast, hard-hitting, and highly skilled).

    Nobody brings it quite like you, my man.
     
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